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Age : 65
Location : Ascension Parish
Registration date : 2008-04-22

PostSubject: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:59 am

Drink up boys.

Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers, Study Finds

By JOHN CLOUD Mon Aug 30, 6:35 pm ET
One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink actually tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.
But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that - for reasons that aren't entirely clear - abstaining from alcohol does actually tend to increase one's risk of dying even when you exclude former drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers.
Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.
But why would abstaining from alcohol lead to a shorter life? It's true that those who abstain from alcohol tend to be from lower socioeconomic classes, since drinking can be expensive. And people of lower socioeconomic status have more life stressors - job and child-care worries that might not only keep them from the bottle but also cause stress-related illnesses over long periods. (They also don't get the stress-reducing benefits of a drink or two after work.)
But even after controlling for nearly all imaginable variables - socioeconomic status, level of physical activity, number of close friends, quality of social support and so on - the researchers (a six-member team led by psychologist Charles Holahan of the University of Texas at Austin) found that over a 20-year period, mortality rates were highest for those who had never been drinkers, second-highest for heavy drinkers and lowest for moderate drinkers.
The sample of those who were studied included individuals between ages 55 and 65 who had had any kind of outpatient care in the previous three years. The 1,824 participants were followed for 20 years. One drawback of the sample: a disproportionate number, 63%, were men. Just over 69% of the never-drinkers died during the 20 years, 60% of the heavy drinkers died and only 41% of moderate drinkers died.
These are remarkable statistics. Even though heavy drinking is associated with higher risk for cirrhosis and several types of cancer (particularly cancers in the mouth and esophagus), heavy drinkers are less likely to die than people who have never drunk. One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health. As I pointed out last year, nondrinkers show greater signs of depression than those who allow themselves to join the party.
The authors of the new paper are careful to note that even if drinking is associated with longer life, it can be dangerous: it can impair your memory severely and it can lead to nonlethal falls and other mishaps (like, say, cheating on your spouse in a drunken haze) that can screw up your life. There's also the dependency issue: if you become addicted to alcohol, you may spend a long time trying to get off the bottle.
That said, the new study provides the strongest evidence yet that moderate drinking is not only fun but good for you. So make mine a double.
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PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:47 am

Raise a glass to that, add the pipe and I can double my chances!! cheers cheers cheers
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Location : Somewhere between Kansas and Missouri
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PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:35 am

Stress!! A drink or two, especially in the company of family and friends, is a great stress reliever. Add in the pleasure of the pipe and you have the perfect recipe to forget (for a while) what the day may have dumped on you. I have known many people who abstained for moral reasons, and like most "enlightened" people, they were so stressed out over it and convinced that they had to save the rest of us, that you could see them heading for an early grave. Same for those who drink in excess to escape. Life offers many pleasures when taken in moderation. Enjoy them.

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Age : 67
Location : foothills of the Ozarks
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PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:54 am

Damn, SWMBO was right, I'm going to live for ever and annoy her to her end! Laughing

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Age : 69
Location : Shores of Lake Ontario
Registration date : 2010-02-04

PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:02 am

Cheers mate.Its 0907 and I am on vacation.Three fingers of Bourbon in my Coffee and my Stanwell burning.
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PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 11:02 am

Very interesting, and good news for sure!
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Location : Sanford NC
Registration date : 2009-03-14

PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:45 pm

The week I'm already having I'll be enjoying a couple tonight. And tomorrow night. Etc.
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Age : 39
Location : Danbury, CT
Registration date : 2010-02-24

PostSubject: Re: I think I'll have another...   Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:28 pm

I guess this means the haze that was college and the all night binges of my 20's are the reasons I'm gonna make it to 100 Very Happy
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