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Kapnismologist
Joined : 09 Nov 2008
Posts : 79
 |  Subject: Home Stoving Virginas  Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:54 pm | |
| Dear All,
Has anyone here tried their hand at 'home stoving' virginias? If so, how do you do it exactly and what would be your best recommendations for method(s) using what is normally found around the house or garage? I am thinking here of stoving some bulk virginia flake which has not shown much in the bowl as it stands. Thanks!
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Natch
Age : 58
Joined : 21 Dec 2007
Posts : 270
Location : foothills of the Ozarks
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:07 pm | |
| In the summer, I've thrown a tin or two on the dashboard for a month or more. If they don't explode, they'll sure cook (here in Arkieland, at least!). It's made some Mc Baren Va #1 smokable in rather short order.
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ftrplt
Age : 62
Joined : 15 Dec 2007
Posts : 525
Location : Split between Raleigh, NC and OKC, OK
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:29 pm | |
| We had a pretty healthy thread on this subject over on the old Knox site. Generally most folks just let the sun do its thing with the tobacco! I put mine out early in the morning in full sun and just let it "cook." Usually after 7-10 days, I set it inside in the dark for a few days. Seems to work!!!   FTRPLT |
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hazmat
Age : 34
Joined : 11 Dec 2007
Posts : 313
Location : Harrisburg, PA
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:22 am | |
| WHAT YOU NEED: Can of tuna(empty preferred, see below), clamps(c-clamps suggested, use what ya got), 'baccy, stove
Open a can of tuna and empty it. Retain the lid.
Turn the tuna into tuna salad, make a samich. Enjoy.
Whilst eating the samich, clean the hell out of the can and lid. Soap and water work well, but if you want to be extra-sure, run it through the dishwasher or hit it with a light bleach solution.
Line the can with parchment paper; cut a circle each for top and bottom and a strip wide enough to wrap around the interior diameter of the can.
Bottom circle in, inner strip in, then pack the can with the 'baccy of your choice. Put the top circle on, add the lid, then clamp *sorta* tight. You want to compress it, but you don't want to turn it into a 'baccy puck.
Fire up the oven to "warm" or whatever your lowest setting is. Pop "tobacco press" into oven on a piece of foil or baking pan(get your significant other's permission or things could get ugly). You might want to play around with the temps if you do this more than once, but "warm" seems to do alright on my stove. YMMV.
Allow to stove for as long as you think necessary. I've done 8 and 12 hours with MacBaren #1 and it turned out alright. You can control humidity a tad by leaving the door to the oven open for a stretch here and there OR by directly spraying water onto the contraption and closing the door. Just keep an eye on it and you'll be alright.
DISCLAIMER: I've only ever done this 2 times, so I'm no expert. But my kitchen isn't burned down and I smoked all the tobacco I stoved and haven't turned into a newt yet, so it's pretty safe. |
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 1840
Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:27 am | |
| I take a pinch and put it in a large bowl, I take another pinch and put it the bowl packing it a bit, finally I take a last pinch and place it in the bowl and give it a firm push with my thumbs. Now that I have the tobacco ready for stoving I place a mouth piece attached to the bowl to my lips and place fire over the tobacco in the bowl. I then procede to puff until the tobacco is stoved.
Of course I'm being a smart arse but I just don't see why people feel the need to bake,cook,or otherwise mess with the end product. Most blenders put a lot of time into getting their stuff just right.. Then they raise nine levels of hades with the manufactorers to ensure it leaves there as intended. Then we as end users want to doodle with it? I don't get it.
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hazmat
Age : 34
Joined : 11 Dec 2007
Posts : 313
Location : Harrisburg, PA
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:40 pm | |
| | puros_bran wrote: | I take a pinch and put it in a large bowl, I take another pinch and put it the bowl packing it a bit, finally I take a last pinch and place it in the bowl and give it a firm push with my thumbs. Now that I have the tobacco ready for stoving I place a mouth piece attached to the bowl to my lips and place fire over the tobacco in the bowl. I then procede to puff until the tobacco is stoved.
Of course I'm being a smart arse but I just don't see why people feel the need to bake,cook,or otherwise mess with the end product. Most blenders put a lot of time into getting their stuff just right.. Then they raise nine levels of hades with the manufactorers to ensure it leaves there as intended. Then we as end users want to doodle with it? I don't get it. |
When the end product is something that doesn't appeal to you, yet you have a bunch of it, then it's experimentation time, IMHO. That's why I stoved some of the Mac #1. The rest of it, I put up to age. Otherwise, my mouth caught on fire just thinking about lighting the pipe! |
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 1840
Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:35 pm | |
| If my understanding is correct, isn't stoving just a cheat to try to replicate aging? Why not just age it?
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Doc Manhattan
Age : 30
Joined : 26 May 2008
Posts : 473
Location : East Harlem, NY
Tobacco : Reiner LGF
Pipe : Mastro de Paja
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:40 pm | |
| | puros_bran wrote: | | If my understanding is correct, isn't stoving just a cheat to try to replicate aging? Why not just age it? |
Sometimes, you just can't wait 2+ years to fully enjoy a matured version of what you have on hand. (I learned that dating in high school.)
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 1840
Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:47 pm | |
| Doc that puts a whole new meaning into 'change of pace blend'
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Justpipes
The Duke
Age : 50
Joined : 17 Dec 2007
Posts : 3698
Location : American by birth, Southern by the grace of God!
Tobacco : John Middleton Walnut, Prince Albert, GLP Cumberland, Recently Exhausted Rooster.
Pipe : Brissetts, Kaywoodies in variations of the billiard and dublin shape.
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:54 pm | |
| Why don't you just smoke Walnut? It is perfect right off the retail shelf!
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bronxbill
Age : 61
Joined : 20 Dec 2007
Posts : 207
Location : Triangle area NC
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:14 pm | |
| Never miss a chance do you Mark? 
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Kapnismologist
Joined : 09 Nov 2008
Posts : 79
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:49 pm | |
| | Thanks much for all the advice. I will give the 'clamped tuna can' method a try. By the way, on the issue of why stove in the first place rather than wait, etc. - in this case the issue is what to do with a pound of boring, lackluster VA flake (no name, in bulk from a BM 'tobacco bar' jar) for which it is either this or becoming a rather expensive dressing for the garden next spring. I will be sure to report back on the results of this experiment in due time. |
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Justpipes
The Duke
Age : 50
Joined : 17 Dec 2007
Posts : 3698
Location : American by birth, Southern by the grace of God!
Tobacco : John Middleton Walnut, Prince Albert, GLP Cumberland, Recently Exhausted Rooster.
Pipe : Brissetts, Kaywoodies in variations of the billiard and dublin shape.
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:04 pm | |
| | bronxbill wrote: | | Never miss a chance do you Mark? |
Absolutely not Bill!
They scary thing is, I actually believe it! 
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Slow Puffs
Resident Sportscaster
Age : 60
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 2543
Location : Alberta. Canada
Tobacco : GLP Telegraph Hill
Pipe : Dunhill Tanshell Liverpool
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:19 pm | |
| I posed the question in a Knox thread to GLP and he said he'd answer it... heating tins in the sunlight on the car dash... surprisingly it ended up on his Briar and Leaf Chronicles...
http://glpease.com/BriarAndLeaf/?p=39#more-39
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puros_bran
Nightrider
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 1840
Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Home Stoving Virginas Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:00 pm | |
| Hey JP.....
The folks in Jonesboro actually thought that Kool-aid was good for 'em too.
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