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Wet Dottle
Joined : 27 Feb 2008
Posts : 212
Location : Littleton, CO
 |  Subject: Do you know how much is in each tin?  Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:03 pm | |
| Due to several reasons, including insanity, I regularly weigh the net contents of each tin and bag of tobacco that I buy. I keep a detailed record of it all, and today I decided to summarize and share my findings with you. Most are good news.
-- The vast majority of tins and bulk packages had more tobacco that advertised.
-- European makers have the most accurate packaging, often being within a fraction of a gram from the advertised net weight. American tins are more liberally filled, often having a couple of grams above advertised net weight.
-- All the tins that had less weight than the advertised net weight were from European manufacturers. But this was a very, very small percentage of tins, and the deficit was small.
--Usually, bulk packages have more tobacco that the advertised net weight. The surplus is, in average, larger than that of tins. But there is a large variation from shop to shop.
-- On the negative side, there is a particular blender/shop whose packages were consistently below the advertised net weight. Actually, all the tobacco I bought from that blender had less than the advertised weight. Sometimes the deficit was very large, more than 50%. It is a shop/blender very dear to many in multiple news groups. I don’t want to be flamed, therefore I’m not posting its name.
-- On the positive side, in general we are getting more tobacco than we are paying for. By far, the most generous blender is Cornell and Diehl: their tins often have more than 3 grams over the advertised net weight. That’s one extra bowl in each tin! For most generous bulk baggies, the award goes to Smokingpipes.com.
Disclaimer: the above comments reflect my personal habits and experience. I have no affiliation of any kind with anybody involved in this trade. I should probably see a shrink on regular basis, but prefer to spend my money on funner things.
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|  | | jhuggett
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| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:23 pm | |
| That's some good information WD!
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| | | | jeffya2
Age : 61
Joined : 13 Feb 2008
Posts : 49
Location : Palm Harbor, Florida
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:56 pm | |
| | Wet Dottle wrote: | Due to several reasons, including insanity, I regularly weigh the net contents of each tin and bag of tobacco that I buy. I keep a detailed record of it all, and today I decided to summarize and share my findings with you. Most are good news.
-- The vast majority of tins and bulk packages had more tobacco that advertised.
-- European makers have the most accurate packaging, often being within a fraction of a gram from the advertised net weight. American tins are more liberally filled, often having a couple of grams above advertised net weight.
-- All the tins that had less weight than the advertised net weight were from European manufacturers. But this was a very, very small percentage of tins, and the deficit was small.
--Usually, bulk packages have more tobacco that the advertised net weight. The surplus is, in average, larger than that of tins. But there is a large variation from shop to shop.
-- On the negative side, there is a particular blender/shop whose packages were consistently below the advertised net weight. Actually, all the tobacco I bought from that blender had less than the advertised weight. Sometimes the deficit was very large, more than 50%. It is a shop/blender very dear to many in multiple news groups. I don’t want to be flamed, therefore I’m not posting its name.
-- On the positive side, in general we are getting more tobacco than we are paying for. By far, the most generous blender is Cornell and Diehl: their tins often have more than 3 grams over the advertised net weight. That’s one extra bowl in each tin! For most generous bulk baggies, the award goes to Smokingpipes.com.
Disclaimer: the above comments reflect my personal habits and experience. I have no affiliation of any kind with anybody involved in this trade. I should probably see a shrink on regular basis, but prefer to spend my money on funner things. |
I agree & wonder whom it is that always cheats the weight. I'll bet I know who she is as every single pound is always under. I like her blends but have not ordered in a year but really miss 2 of her blends but hate confrontation even more then getting cheated |
| | | | puros_bran
Nightrider
Joined : 10 Dec 2007
Posts : 1840
Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:10 pm | |
| I have always suspected my Ashton Artisans blend was really 49.93grams.......  |
| | | | Wet Dottle
Joined : 27 Feb 2008
Posts : 212
Location : Littleton, CO
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:49 am | |
| | puros_bran wrote: | | I have always suspected my Ashton Artisans blend was really 49.93grams....... |
I love Artisan's Blend. I tried it not too long ago and it is in the list for cellaring. The net weight in my tin was 49.9 g, but that is within the plus or minus 0.1 g error band of the equipment. 
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| | | | Wet Dottle
Joined : 27 Feb 2008
Posts : 212
Location : Littleton, CO
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:00 am | |
| | jeffya2 wrote: |
I agree & wonder whom it is that always cheats the weight. I'll bet I know who she is as every single pound is always under. I like her blends but have not ordered in a year but really miss 2 of her blends but hate confrontation even more then getting cheated |
Jeffya2, the place I am referring to only has male attendants, at least that I know of. If you are interested to know, e-mail me and I'll be happy to send you their ID. I placed two orders with them and both orders had problems. From a total of 22 baggies, not a single one met the advertised net weight. I did not call, there are too many great retailers out there...
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| | | | puros_bran
Nightrider
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Location : Lower 48
Tobacco : half burned out cob
Pipe : yard clippings
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:48 am | |
| Personal Opinion:
Contact the folks with the issue. Its just as likely their scales need calibrated as it is bad business practice.
It could also be packing issues resulting in water loss during shipping & handling.
It may even be someone that is employed there thinks close enough is close enough,even with. Co Policy stating otherwise. |
| | | | jeffya2
Age : 61
Joined : 13 Feb 2008
Posts : 49
Location : Palm Harbor, Florida
| | Subject: Re: Do you know how much is in each tin? Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:33 pm | |
| | Wet Dottle wrote: | | puros_bran wrote: | | I have always suspected my Ashton Artisans blend was really 49.93grams....... |
I love Artisan's Blend. I tried it not too long ago and it is in the list for cellaring. The net weight in my tin was 49.9 g, but that is within the plus or minus 0.1 g error band of the equipment. |
That is funny however I think that we are talking about as much a 3 oz/ Pound which IMHO is not funny on about 8 different 1 lb orders |
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