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jhuggett BoB's Pioneer & Founding Father

Age : 36 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 1957 Tobacco : Davidoff Flake Medallions Pipe : Sara Eltang Christmas Pipe
 | Subject: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:21 pm | |
| The first few times I saw a nosewarmer I thought they were the ugliest and most ridiculous things ever. Well now I'm starting to appreciate the aesthetics of them. In fact I've kind of become enamored by them, especially from makers such as Jack Howell, Rad Davis (just posted a couple), Scott Anderson, and a few others.
My question is how do they smoke? I would think they would tend to smoke hot with such short shanks. Being I'm pretty much a Virginia and Burley smoker would this kind of pipe be worth the investment at all? _________________ Jason |
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Rad Davis

Age : 59 Joined : 16 Dec 2007 Posts : 38 Location : Foley, Alabama, USA
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:08 pm | |
| Hi Jason,
Jack Howell posted about this on another forum, I forget which one. The claim by someone was that canadians/lovats smoke cooler because of the long shank.
Jack said that for him, the opposite was true. A nosewarmer is much easier to smoke cool, because you have more control over your puffing strength with such a short shank.
IMO, the length of shank is not going to make any difference at all in the temp of the smoke coming out the button. It's all about puffing rate, and how hard you draw when you do puff.
Rad |
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jhuggett BoB's Pioneer & Founding Father

Age : 36 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 1957 Tobacco : Davidoff Flake Medallions Pipe : Sara Eltang Christmas Pipe
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:35 pm | |
| I can buy that... I think I just concluded that longer equaled cooler being I thought the idea behind churchwardens were to provide a cooler smoke. Thanks for the information.  _________________ Jason |
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Nick
Joined : 04 Apr 2008 Posts : 80
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:40 pm | |
| | All other things being equal, a longer shank would be cooler. its just physics. However, the degree to which they cool is probably imperceptable to most folks. As was mentioned above, puffing rate probably has a much greater effect of heat than distance traveled. |
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Ol'Dawg

Age : 63 Joined : 03 Jan 2008 Posts : 532 Location : Northeast Georgia
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:57 pm | |
| Jason,
A few years ago, I bought a Big Ben Barbados (4.5 " long) especially for a late November hunt trip to Montana for use as a hand and nose warmer. Plus the torque would be reduced during the usually very windy days there. That was going against everything I had read about short pipes being hot smokers but in late November in Montana, I figured any pipe would smoke cool. Much to my surprise I found them to smoke cool anywhere and reached the same conclusion as Rad and Jack.
Jim _________________ My Tinsky OGB Christmas 2008 pipe |
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jhuggett BoB's Pioneer & Founding Father

Age : 36 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 1957 Tobacco : Davidoff Flake Medallions Pipe : Sara Eltang Christmas Pipe
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:27 pm | |
| Cool, good stuff. Not that I needed another reason to buy pipes.  _________________ Jason |
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Buddy Springman

Age : 51 Joined : 01 Jun 2008 Posts : 156 Location : SE Coast of Lake Michigan
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:31 pm | |
| | jhuggett wrote: | | My question is how do they smoke? I would think they would tend to smoke hot with such short shanks. Being I'm pretty much a Virginia and Burley smoker would this kind of pipe be worth the investment at all? |
I'm in bed with the cooler crowd. I think "smoking hot" is NOT really about temperature. Check out R. Winans' "The Pipe Smoker's Tobacco Book" (1977, occasionally available on Amazon) pages 58-64. Per these passages, derived from an edition of Beitrage Zur Tobakforschung (Vol. 4, pp. 32-79, 1967, West Germany), the hottest smoke from a 2 1/16 inch stem is only 118° F....tepid by coffee standards. So we're talking chemistry here. And it seems intuitively obvious to me that one has better control of events in the bowl (chemistry) with a short shank.
Whatever side you take, check-out this Tinsky-blast-by-Rad

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Buddy Springman

Age : 51 Joined : 01 Jun 2008 Posts : 156 Location : SE Coast of Lake Michigan
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:38 pm | |
| Oops...
I own this pipe and it smokes heavenly.
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Winslow

Age : 62 Joined : 11 Apr 2008 Posts : 736 Location : Roselle, IL 60172 Tobacco : Bosun Cut Plug Pipe : Ardor
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:16 pm | |
| I've got a Polish nosewarmer with 9mm filter,a gift from a friend who was visiting there several years ago.It has a "W" stamped on the shank,name of the maker which escapes me now.This little baby is a cool smoke but it does make my eye tear sometimes when the smoke gets in it.It has an unusual finish which I haven't seen before,it is "Furrowed".Looks like a scribe was used to make vertical lines on the bowl.
Winslow _________________ "My name is Sherlock Holmes. It is my business to know what other people don't know." |
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ZuluCollector

Joined : 12 Dec 2007 Posts : 147 Location : Arlington, VA USA
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:32 pm | |
| My experience supports Rad's post completely - that nosewarmers offer more immediate feedback when smoking. I have quite a few of them and I like how them smoke very much.
YMMV. _________________ Neill Archer Roan www.apassionforpipes.com |
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Yak Resident Philosopher

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 824 Location : Yaksylvania
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:37 pm | |
| What's funny is that you can about tell how long somebody's been a crack addict by the length of the stem on his pipe. A piper wants to keep getting in closer and closer to his rocks as time passes, until he's singing his lips.
 _________________ All the old cliches are true. That's why they're cliches. |
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Bob Oakley

Age : 56 Joined : 29 Dec 2007 Posts : 30 Location : Erie, PA
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:07 am | |
| | I have never tried a nosewarmer as the shape didn't appeal to me very much. Now I'm wondering . . . no, no not yet. I may end up getting one to see - a great reason for a PAD strike. |
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vaperfavour

Age : 35 Joined : 16 Mar 2008 Posts : 255 Location : tampa, florida Tobacco : vapers,of course! syrian when in the mood Pipe : Tom Eltangs
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:18 pm | |
| | ahhh, nosewarmers, what shape or style of pipe is better for smelling the tobacco or letting you control your smoke??? I have an eltang brandyish-billiard nosewarmer 4.3 inches long that just sings with pure virginias. i recently acquired an antique french briar with amber stem and gold rim top that is only two inches long!!!! i opened it's little case and laughed!! here is one for the gnomes!!! expecting a terrible smoke i loaded it with some old PCCA new world flake from 1992, lit up cautiuosly, and lo and behold this thing smokes great!! i mean who would have thought such a small pipe could provide such a great smokle, yet it does. i find i barely have to pufff on it. it seems to smoke by itself. 10 dollars off e-bay. |
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pipedumb
Joined : 03 Jul 2008 Posts : 15
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:09 pm | |
| | I like nose warmers because they are more managable when walking the dog... easy to stuff into pocket. : ) |
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jhuggett BoB's Pioneer & Founding Father

Age : 36 Joined : 09 Dec 2007 Posts : 1957 Tobacco : Davidoff Flake Medallions Pipe : Sara Eltang Christmas Pipe
 | Subject: Re: Nosewarmers Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:32 pm | |
| I found one that really appeals to me... It was made by an unknown in Canada.

 _________________ Jason |
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