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 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 04, 2008 10:11 pm | |
| | CP wrote: | | The same snobbery occurs in luxury car dealerships. If you are not wearing a suit, you may not get served for a long time. |
Not where I live. I go into luxury dealerships all the time in Tshirts and Jeans since I don't wear suits anymore, and service is great! |
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regor
Age : 63 Joined : 17 Dec 2007 Posts : 557 Location : Huachuca City, Arizona
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Mon May 05, 2008 8:03 am | |
| Snobery is almost everywhere!. I was curious about mead and went to several sites to read about it. They were all set up for people that already knew about it. I stated that I didn't know anything and wanted to lear. The answers I got back were people looking down their noses at me with almost nasty answers. I could not get one of them to recomend a book to read about it.. At least I know which ones not to deal with. Some how, some way I will learn about it. I know the history about it but nothing else. I am still a little pissed about it but I will get over it and stay with it and find a book that will tell me about it. There is a slight chance thaat I'll have to make my own to get and learn about it, That takes a lot of money that I'd rather spend on tobacco and pipes- almost LOL, rant off!!  _________________ Handle every stressful situation like a dog. If you can't eat it or play with it pee on it and walk away. (from a friend P.H. that sends me jokes a lot) |
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Yak Resident Philosopher

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 728 Location : Yaksylvania
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Mon May 05, 2008 1:47 pm | |
| | Ian wrote: | | I go into luxury dealerships all the time in Tshirts and Jeans since I don't wear suits anymore, and service is great! |
When Surrealistic Pillow went over the the top, Grace Slick is said to have walked into the Lamborghini dealership in San Francisco looking like . . . looking like Grace Slick. The sales guy probably only talked to her to see if hippie chicks were as free with their favors as they had the reputation of being (and whether it might be his lucky day if they were). He thought she was playing a joke on him 'til she counted the price of the one she picked out on his desk in cash.
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Mon May 05, 2008 1:51 pm | |
| | Yak wrote: | | Ian wrote: | | I go into luxury dealerships all the time in Tshirts and Jeans since I don't wear suits anymore, and service is great! |
When Surrealistic Pillow went over the the top, Grace Slick is said to have walked into the Lamborghini dealership in San Francisco looking like . . . looking like Grace Slick. The sales guy probably only talked to her to see if hippie chicks were as free with their favors as they had the reputation of being (and whether it might be his lucky day if they were). He thought she was playing a joke on him 'til she counted the price of the one she picked out on his desk in cash.
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Hee hee- yep- that'll do it:)
Nothing like convincing somebody of reality with cold hard currency:) |
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Yak Resident Philosopher

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 728 Location : Yaksylvania
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Wed May 07, 2008 9:11 pm | |
| Long ago, on a far-away planet, | PeeBee wrote: | I'm definately in the classic camp, with just a lil bit of freehand. Bent squashed elongated tuna puffs, and half blast bearded upside down chamber swirlly trumpets??? You can keep em! I dont care if TokaSkovogradten made it. Don't forget collectors, the fewer people that can pronounce the carver's name, the more it's worth.
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Danish_Pipe_Guy Admin

Age : 32 Joined : 15 Dec 2007 Posts : 875 Location : Fenway Paaak: Boston,Massachusetts
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sat May 24, 2008 9:26 pm | |
| I feel that I've actually been shunned on another pipes board simple because I smoke the higher end pipes! I guess pipe elitism works in this way too 
Best, D.J. _________________
  
My Pipe Rack: http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/DockJPerry/?start=0 |
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Winslow

Age : 62 Joined : 11 Apr 2008 Posts : 634 Location : Roselle, IL 60172
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sat May 24, 2008 9:39 pm | |
| I can remember about 10 years ago on ASP there was resentment by some people about some of the members posting about high end pipes they owned. So childish it made some guys just give up on posting there.I'm glad to have not seen that on this board,if someone scores a beauty all the guys are happy for him. I like this board,a moderated board where bullshit is kept away.
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puros_bran Nightrider

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 1574 Location : Lower 48
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sat May 24, 2008 10:19 pm | |
| | Yak wrote: | Long ago, on a far-away planet, | PeeBee wrote: | I'm definately in the classic camp, with just a lil bit of freehand. Bent squashed elongated tuna puffs, and half blast bearded upside down chamber swirlly trumpets??? You can keep em! I dont care if TokaSkovogradten made it. Don't forget collectors, the fewer people that can pronounce the carver's name, the more it's worth.
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That was along time ago....hehehehe
I still favor classic shapes. Dublins,lumbermen/canadians, etc etc etc I also still like a little freehand, some platue or maybe a bit of off classic flair. I Still don't like Blowsnails, or Hornyoctabirdstoes... The only exception is Horns, which could be argued as a classic shape.
And I never ment for that to sound as reverse snobbery as it does, I was just getting tired or hearing about pipes that cost more than my home. _________________ Crede Ut Intelligas
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Highstump

Age : 56 Joined : 26 Apr 2008 Posts : 188 Location : Willamette Valley, Oregon
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 12:36 pm | |
| I know what you mean pb and I am in the same camp. I surely don't begrudge anyone the purchase of an expensive pipe, more power to them. It is undoubtedly just my background but if I had a grand to spend in a pipe shop I am way more likely to snag a few $150-$200 pipes and spend the ballance (if any) on tobacco than to plunk it all down on one pipe. As far as "elitism" goes, in either direction, I would hope that the very nature of what makes a pipe smoker a different animal would prevent this. Just my two cents worth. (Which probably isn't really worth that much, but there you go.)  _________________ Jim
"People are entitled to their own opinions, they are not entitled to their own facts." (Vincent Bugliosi) |
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Danish_Pipe_Guy Admin

Age : 32 Joined : 15 Dec 2007 Posts : 875 Location : Fenway Paaak: Boston,Massachusetts
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 4:03 pm | |
| To me the whole thing is just utterly rediculous!
In the Summertime my family and I attend alot of car shows and cruise nights. My Dad's got an old Rolls Royce.My Mom's got a vintage custom hearse and I have a vintage police car.None of our cars are exceedingly valueable though all are well kept and well loved.At these shows there are folks with cars that the proud owners have 75K to 100K invested in. Are we jealous or spiteful becasue they bring them to these shows and usually win the big trophies with them? Of course not! That would be silly. We appreciate that they bring their cars and we enjoy seeing them.Their priorities are with their automobiles and they spend on them accordingly!
The same arguement holds true for those of us who smoke expensive pipes.They are OUR priority and we spend most of the extra cash we have on them.I won't ever appologize for doing so either....
Best, D.J. _________________
  
My Pipe Rack: http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd193/DockJPerry/?start=0
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pipetongue1 Tobacco Hoarder At Large

Age : 63 Joined : 14 Dec 2007 Posts : 615 Location : Abington, Mass.
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 4:07 pm | |
| Nor should you Dock,....Ken Pacem en Puffing!  |
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puros_bran Nightrider

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 1574 Location : Lower 48
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 4:35 pm | |
| When carried to the extremes in either direction it is.....
I enjoy hearing about a guys new Pete just as much as I do a guys new Ivarsson, I really don't care to be around folk that Can't be happy for whatever their Bro's smoking.. There are places online where admitting you smoke anything besides a Kaywoodie will get you mocked, but there are also place online that anything lower than a Bang will get you mocked, I'm uncomfortable at both places. _________________ Crede Ut Intelligas
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earl
Age : 54 Joined : 22 Dec 2007 Posts : 60 Location : Kansas
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 5:15 pm | |
| Good point, PB. I certainly enjoy seeing discussions of the fine works of pipe art here that cost out in ranges far beyond what I'll ever afford but at the same time being able to share the enthusiasm of my fellow "average budget" pipesmokers is essential to making a pipe forum a true meeting ground for all who enjoy the pipe-maybe I should have not used the term "average budget," given that with each passing year what I hear the media quote as the national medium household income seems to be leaping beyond what we live on in our household. Earl |
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Muddler

Age : 52 Joined : 22 May 2008 Posts : 84 Location : South Africa
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 6:08 pm | |
| Earlier today I followed one of the links posted to a pipe maker's site & spotted a pipe that was just WoW. Should be in the Louvre. I called my wife over to show her, & she wow'd over it. I think the price was around $700 & it was absolutely worth it. SWAMBO suggested I get it for Xmas (wonderful girl). I declined. Like Stump, I'm happier in the below $300 range. I'm not a collector, but I sure as hell can appreciate them. And I probably could afford them. Maybe. A few. But I'd sooner spend the bucks on other hobbies.
So, the point of this is that: 1. Quality is plainly evident - even to non pipe smokers 2. You have to pay for true art 3. You may choose not to 4. The opinions of elitists or counter-elitists matter to one only if one thinks they may have a point (or do you think I'm being a bit harsh in this judgement?) 5. My opinion - stuff both camps & smoke what you please, smugly. |
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puros_bran Nightrider

Joined : 10 Dec 2007 Posts : 1574 Location : Lower 48
 | Subject: Re: pipe elitism Sun May 25, 2008 6:37 pm | |
| Muddler, You are absolutely 100% correct, I smoke mostly low buck Stanwells, a few on here don't even OWN pipes cheaper than a grand or a grand and a half.. Who's right? Its one of the few places where 'universalism' actually works.. WE both are.
The old tag 'Smoke what ya like,like what ya smoke' is one of the attitudes that make this lifestyle fun. _________________ Crede Ut Intelligas
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