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Hunter5117

Hunter5117

Age : 65
Location : Somewhere between Kansas and Missouri
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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PostSubject: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 3:02 pm

I have fished all my life including about 10 years on the bass fishing circuit back in the 80's. Hadn't done much lately up until 3 years ago when I bought a fly fishing outfit to keep busy in the evenings on some of the local streams, mostly panfish and small bass. For Christmas the wife got me a starter kit for tying my own flies, which I have already exchanged for a more capable set up and am spending too much time on Youtube and other sites, watching and learning the basics of tying my own patterns.

I can't imagine a group of pipe smokers without a good showing of fly fishermen! How many, how long you been at it, and what can you tell me to help me along (other than it is another darn fine way to become parted from your life savings!!!).
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 3:53 pm

Hunter5117 wrote:
I have fished all my life including about 10 years on the bass fishing circuit back in the 80's. Hadn't done much lately up until 3 years ago when I bought a fly fishing outfit to keep busy in the evenings on some of the local streams, mostly panfish and small bass. For Christmas the wife got me a starter kit for tying my own flies, which I have already exchanged for a more capable set up and am spending too much time on Youtube and other sites, watching and learning the basics of tying my own patterns.

I can't imagine a group of pipe smokers without a good showing of fly fishermen! How many, how long you been at it, and what can you tell me to help me along (other than it is another darn fine way to become parted from your life savings!!!).

Hey there. Fly fishing is a little like pipe smoking. A little knowledge and simple equipment will get you a long way. As you don´t need the expensive Uber-pipe to get a good smoke, you dont need the Winston bamboo Uber-rod to do well either. You can make it as copmplicated and expensive as you want...

A lot of this complication goes into casting. You´ll see videos, classes, and theories about technique (distance casting, doble hauls etc) and a lot of people get lost in this area. Remember the idea is to get the fly where you want it with a decent presentation. The basics are the 10-2 cast (imagining the angle of yout rod according to the clock hands) and knowing where in the water to put it. There will be exceptions and variations to all the casting basics depending on the conditions of the situation. Nost notably trying to get a backcast in on water overgrown with vegetation. Roll casting works in this situation, for example.

Knowing where the fish are in the river is a good idea too. In a nutshell, trout like places where the can expend as little energy as necessary while being able to see as much available food pass by. Cast to where slow water meets fast as they´ll wait in the slower water watching the faster water go by. Behind rocks, protrusions, or anything that wikk break the veocity of the waterflow.

A lot is made of patterns and "matching the hatch" insofar as flies are concerned. While it is awesome to be on the river during a hatch, it´s not the norm and most fishing is done between these events. Good attractor flies (Stimulator, Royal Coachman, Elk hair Caddis) will get you through in a lot of situations. Another thing is to simply go to the local fly shop where you intend to fish and ask what patterns are working.

Tying flies is fun!! I reccomend you take a class if you can. It´s a little easier to get the basic techniques down under the guidance of someone knowledgeable. I learned from a guy who later became a tyer for Orvis! There are some people who tie flies just for the art of it and have never even flyfished. A vice, a bobbin, some floss, and an assortment of basic hackle will get you satrted there.

Basic equipment:

Rod- a 4 wt with as fast action as you can find (the Sages are terrific and quite reasonable)

Reel- just get one, the modest ones work as well as the expensive titanium alloy ones. This is the least important component...

Line- 4wt WF (weight forward) to make casting a little easier as you get the hang of it

Leader- 7 to 9 ft 5x taper ( the 5X stands for the guage of the small end where you tie the fly) perhaps tippet (5x as well) to add on as your leader gets shorter.

Flies- go for a simple assortment based on where you´ll be fishing. Ask at the local shop for an assortment of whats been working. Don´t forget floatant...

That´ll get you started....

Geez, this was long winded even for me.... hope it´s helpful.
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
Location : NC
Registration date : 2010-06-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 4:14 pm

Mister E has it all covered. I have always gotten the most enjoyment in fly fishing for bluegill/bream/sunfish, etc. as they are very tasty when filleted into mouth sized nuggets of love.
How many fly fishermen in the BoB? Sunfish


I have a Winston 7 wt. rod which just melts in your hands and I could always cast it just as far as my 12 wt. Thomas&Thomas. My dedicated Bluegill rod is a super-sweet 4wt., 7ft long Powell from the early 90's in a beautiful Emerald Green color, equipped with a JRyall 2 inch diameter reel, it puts a smile on your face just taking it out of the case. Smile


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MisterE
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 4:38 pm

hobie1dog wrote:
Mister E has is all covered. I have always gotten the most enjoyment in fly fishing for bluegill/bream/sunfish, etc. as they are very tasty when filleted into mouth sized nuggets of love.
How many fly fishermen in the BoB? Sunfish


I have a Winston 7 wt. rod which just melts in your hands and I could always cast it just as far as my 12 wt. Thomas&Thomas. My dedicated Bluegill rod is a super-sweet 4wt., 7ft long Powell from the early 90's in a beautiful Emerald Green color, equipped with a JRyall 2 inch diameter reel, it puts a smile on your face just taking it out of the case. Smile

Wow man, nice set of sticks you got there!!! I have only read on catching panfish with flygear. I´m a southwest dude so it´s trout for us mostly. Sounds like you´re geared for the big stuff with 7 and 12 wts.... My favorite of my bunch is (was) a nice 7 ft 3 wt Redington that I used for most modest to small stream fishing. The tip snapped last summer and I havent gotten to sending it off. Not a super high end rod but it´s just awesome.....
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Hunter5117

Hunter5117

Age : 65
Location : Somewhere between Kansas and Missouri
Registration date : 2009-07-29

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptySun Jan 02, 2011 9:49 pm

MrE, thanks for the rundown. I have spent a good deal of time in the past 3 years flailing the water, mostly for bass and panfish in the local small streams that are within a short walk or at most a 5-10 minute drive from our house. I originally started out with a 7wt setup but quickly figured out that it was much too heavy for most of the fish I encounter, so bought a 5wt and then a 3. Wife gave me a nice 4wt Redington for Christmas but I haven't bought a reel and got it rigged out yet.

As for reels, I have a couple of the Lamson reels and a couple of cheapies, I like the Lamsons a lot and they are reasonably priced and will likely get another for the new rod. About half the fish I catch are on wooly buggars in a variety of sizes from 8 to 12 mostly. I have tried floating a few trout flies and occasionally a bluegill will come up and strike it but the wet flies are much more reliable for the fish I normally find. Hoping to find time to branch out to some of the local trout waters, Missouri has some decent trout fishing but I have to make a pretty good drive to get to it.
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BuryMeInSmoke

BuryMeInSmoke

Age : 31
Location : Ontario, Canada
Registration date : 2011-01-02

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyMon Jan 03, 2011 2:42 pm

Thanks for the info, MisterE. I've been tying my own flies for over a year and a half now, but have always fished them with a bobber on an ultralight spincast. Mind you, that's all I've found I've needed to have a good afternoon crappie fishing. I've wanted to set myself up with a fly rod, and with your information, I just might!
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Muddler

Muddler

Age : 64
Location : Pretoria, South Africa
Registration date : 2008-05-22

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Jan 19, 2011 1:38 pm

Can't believe I missed this thread. I've been flyfishing for almost 30 years - trout & saltwater mainly - & am totally addicted to it. I have a bunch of fly rods, from a 1wt Scott to a 12wt Sage. I also tie my own flies. As much as pipe smoking, it's a way of life.
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CLRV

CLRV

Age : 36
Location : Tulsa, Oklahoma
Registration date : 2010-12-29

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Jan 19, 2011 3:00 pm

The more I read on this site, the more striking the personality resemblances are for many of us.

I too have been fly fishing for most of my life. My father and great-grandfather are/were the two primary influences of this. Grandaddy was, well, almost godlike in his flyfishing abilities. Would travel the world using super short rods (much harder to cast as my fellow fly fishing brothers will know) and catching ridiculous fish.

He bought me my first rod when I was 4 (took it seriously, as has been noted). It's actually my earliest and strongest memory of him. He was dying of cancer when he got it for me and I remember standing in the backyard at his house in Wilmington, DE while he sat on the porch in his chair with his old Dunhill pipe with the blanket over his lap and gave me my first casting lesson, the same way he had done with my father in the 50s. Very calm, quiet... "That's good Charles Lee, ten and two, long even strokes, draw with the left hand, think of it as an extension of your arm..."

My earliest memory of doing something with just my Dad is walking down from the fishing cabin in upstate New York (Catskill Mountains, it was Grandaddy's cabin) to this little waterfall area on the beat. There were rainbow and brown trout in the water. That was my first fish, a rainbow trout, caught back in... probably 88 or 89.

Flash forward 14 years and a further extremely potent memory for me with my Dad was a fly trip we took to Montana right before I went off to college. Beautiful times.

In college some buddies and I would go out to the streams around Penn State, up in the mountains. Never caught much, but it was an excuse to get outside and misbehave while pretending to be civilized.

I've let it get away from me over the years however. Something I'll get back to when I'm done with school and have the time again. I do miss it terribly.


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*camoham

*camoham

Age : 48
Location : Indiana
Registration date : 2010-07-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Jan 19, 2011 8:35 pm

ooh ooh me too!

im different though.

have a cabelas three forks rod, does all ive ever asked it to do.

have $100 line on a 15 dollar reel though. Relative sent me SA Sharkskine WF line after i casted his one day on the pond. what a nifty surprise to land in the mail!

i like tying basics as well.

not much moving water, mostly pond here which im sure would get the elitists waders in a bunch.

nothing is more satisfying than catching a fish on a size 10 "Deer hair caddis" made from a hide that i was fortuneate to take the previous hunting season. meanwhile right below where your casting, there are deer prints from an early morning arrival that stopped to get a drink! funny circle i say.

camo
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Mikem
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Mikem

Age : 64
Location : Glendale, Arizona
Registration date : 2007-12-14

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 12:13 pm

Does "trying to fly-fish" count. I have several nice fly rods and reels (in the three to five weight class) but am still trying to learn. Planning on going up to the Rim lakes in Arizona when things start to thaw out in April or May. Mostly trout and small mouth bass.
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Ol'Dawg

Ol'Dawg

Age : 74
Location : Northeast Georgia
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 1:20 pm

When I was about 10 years old my dad bought me a JC Penney 8' fiberglass rod and reel combo, then took me to the banks of White's Creek to show me how to cast. My first cast caught my dad's ear. The image and sounds are still vivid in my memory. Laughing Later on in life I bought an Orvis Far and Fine with a Hardy reel for the north Georgia trout waters. And I have a Redding 9' salt water combo that I haven't been able to use due to a stroke shortly after I got it. Though I do plan to use it on stripers and hybrids on Hartwell Lake this spring.

Jim
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Muddler

Muddler

Age : 64
Location : Pretoria, South Africa
Registration date : 2008-05-22

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 2:37 pm

I have an Orvis Far & Fine as well. Great rods. Mine was bought in 1985 & still sees regular use.
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Ol'Dawg

Ol'Dawg

Age : 74
Location : Northeast Georgia
Registration date : 2008-01-03

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyMon Jan 24, 2011 5:00 pm

Ditto on being great rods! I bought mine in 1980 and have no idea the number of trout and other fish I've caught on it. It's 2 piece graphite for 5 wt line, weighs 2 1/8 oz. with a cork reel seat and has 0780 stamped on the base of the reel seat. Don't know if that's a model or serial # or what. Anyway I love it and by your posting I'm sure you feel the same way. cheers

Jim
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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
Location : NC
Registration date : 2010-06-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 4:00 pm

Mikem wrote:
Does "trying to fly-fish" count. I have several nice fly rods and reels (in the three to five weight class) but am still trying to learn. Planning on going up to the Rim lakes in Arizona when things start to thaw out in April or May. Mostly trout and small mouth bass.

Go to the local Library and get some casting video's, they will help more than anything.
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 4:09 pm

Muddler wrote:
1wt Scott

Hey man, I was checking out the Scott site the other day. What is your 1 wt?

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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
Location : NC
Registration date : 2010-06-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Micro fly fishing is where it's at:

http://www.jaustinforbes.com/micro.html
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MisterE
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Jan 25, 2011 4:33 pm

hobie1dog wrote:
Micro fly fishing is where it's at:

http://www.jaustinforbes.com/micro.html

Ooh, ooh, I WANT ONE!!! What a Face What a Face What a Face

Very cool. Have you tried it??
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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
Location : NC
Registration date : 2010-06-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Jan 26, 2011 12:57 am

MisterE wrote:
hobie1dog wrote:
Micro fly fishing is where it's at:

http://www.jaustinforbes.com/micro.html

Ooh, ooh, I WANT ONE!!! What a Face What a Face What a Face

Very cool. Have you tried it??

Not yet....it's on my list though. Wink
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Navydad

Navydad

Age : 63
Location : Inman, SC
Registration date : 2011-02-01

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Feb 02, 2011 1:07 pm

I flyfish 90% of the time. I am fortunate to live in an area that has many miles of trout streams within a one to two hour ride. I tie most of my flies and build my own rods. My favorite is an old South Bend bamboo rod that I restored completely. It is a real joy to fish with, and I think of the joy it brought it's previous owner. What solitude and peace when standing in a gentle stream. One has to thank God for such beauty
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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
Location : NC
Registration date : 2010-06-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Feb 15, 2011 8:31 pm

I still don't know how to embed a video, ( I've tried everything) but here is a link to a Youtube video which shows a large bluegill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayTBMJiHAHQ&feature=related

This is all I get when I copy the embed code.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ayTBMJiHAHQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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MisterE
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Feb 15, 2011 9:02 pm

Here it is.... have u checked out the Fishinwithjoe series? Lotsa eye candy to go along with the fishin´....


cheers
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hobie1dog

hobie1dog

Age : 64
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Feb 15, 2011 11:19 pm

How in the world do you get the video's up on here? Question Suspect
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MisterE
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MisterE

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyTue Feb 15, 2011 11:29 pm

Afrter hitting reply, copy the url (the http://www. etc) of the video then hit the little box to the upper right of where you´re writing the reply (it has a little film icon). A smaller box will appear and you paste the url info in there. Voilá!
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hobie1dog

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? EmptyWed Feb 16, 2011 12:25 pm

Mister E: Thanks..... I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT cheers bounce cherry

Yeah, I know the above video doesn't have anything to do with fishing other than showing some good salt water fishing grounds. Laughing
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