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MisterE
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MisterE

Location : Mexico City
Registration date : 2009-08-24

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyMon Dec 12, 2011 8:42 pm

The Sages are relatively inexpensive I probably should have said. Compared to a Winston bamboo rod, say, it's a little like Stanwell is to Eltang. There are plenty of "basket rods" (to keep the metaphor) that might work pretty well and be cheaper still.

Check out Cabelas too, they have some great fly rod packages that come with everything you'd need to get started. I have a Cabelas 3wt I use from time to time that works great for the price. I love my Sages but the Cabelas ain't bad. Fenwick also has reasonable rods, but I find these rather floppy. A good quick action I what I like. It'll make accurate casting a little easier.
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KevinM



Age : 77
Location : Connecticut
Registration date : 2012-02-26

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyWed Feb 29, 2012 6:36 pm

I've been a fly fisherman for 30+ years. A comparison you can make between fly fishing and pipes is that you can spend a little, you can spend a lot, largely at your discretion. Some caveats for yez:

You need to match your equipment to what you'll use it for. I use a #5 wght line with an 8'6' rod for most of my stream fishing. For the salt, I use #8, 9', and for small streams a #4, 7'6". I also sometimes use my old fiberglas rods, and enjoy doing my Rip Van Winkle imitation when some know it all sez I oughta try the new graphite sticks:-) Honestly, some anglers have no sense of humor.

Your choice is affected by where you live. I've found Eastern anglers who ply smaller streams prefer a moderate action rod. Western anglers for whom distance casting may be called for may prefer something faster.

Many fly fisherman love fast-action rods, but I cordially admit to hating them. I like moderate action rods, because I still cast mostly by feel, mostly with double taper lines which I learned on fiberglas rods. My preference is not based on "better than," it's just what I prefer. A fast action rod encourages a spinning rod type of casting stroke. A moderate action rod gives an action that looks more like what you see in A River Runs Through It. But really, it's up to the user's temperament.

More expensive doesn't mean better. There's a sweet spot in any manufacturer's lineup at which you're buying a perfectly satisfactory rod, one that hasn't been made to the cheapest possible price, buut you're not paying a premium for hi-tech materials, hand craftmanship etc. I like the value choice in rods. I own St Croix, Orvis and L.L. Bean sticks.

A fly fishing anecdote: Sage is a well known manuf of high-quality rods and, for quite a while, went overboard on fast action sticks. At least, they were way too stiff for my taste, and it was easy to spot a Sage owner by his/her frenetic casting stroke. Under load, the rod stopped bending just below the first guide, it seemed.

Sage then introduced a line advertised as "made for today's fast action rods." The reason was that the avg fly caster couldn't get enough speed going to flex a Sage rod using standard lines. Other line manufacturers followed suit. The little secret was this -- the new lines were manufactured to be half a weight heavier than the rod called for. So the line for a #5 rod was actually a #5.5. Old timers knew that the way to calm down a stiff rod was to "overline" -- i.e., use a #5 line on your #4 rod, for example.

Sage now offers a wider selection of actions, so anglers can find something in the lineup that matches their preferred casting stroke.
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docwatson

docwatson

Location : Central Massachusetts and midcoast Maine
Registration date : 2008-03-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 11:33 am

Kevin,
Excellent response. I also have been a fly fisherman for 40 years plus and everything you say is exactly my feelings. I also prefer a medium action rod and use a line that is a bit heavier than called for to get more action on the rod. Learning to fish with fiberglass rods and old cane rods years ago gives an angler a real feel for the line unlike the fast action boron/graphite/titanium/carbide/tungsten/whatever action rods some makers advertise.
I have Orvis rods, Winston rods, etc. and catch as many fish and have as much fun using some lesser expensive rods such as Cortland, L.L. Bean, etc.
In a few short weeks L.L. Bean usually has a spring sale on their outfits that include rod, reel, line, and case for very short $$.
I would personally steer any new fly fisherman or experienced fisherman not to overlook these outfits, they are a bargain and won't break the bank account.
Of course, we could also ask some advice from our fellow BoB, lestrout, as his screen name speaks for itself. A true collector and fly fisherman extraordinaire.
Very Happy
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KevinM



Age : 77
Location : Connecticut
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 6:37 pm

Thanks, Doc. The LLB retail store near me just wound up its fly fishing sale, I think. The famous Orvis tent sale on their Web site might still be going on. With the price of fly lines going through the roof, I tend to look for line bargains, whether needed or not. I got an Orvis sinking line which normally sold for $70 or thereabouts for $17.20. Even the missus couldn't complain too much about that, though she soon after added another exhibit to her purse museum. Last month I fell to temptation from Cabela's - - a 4-piece #5 Redington, 8'6", with hard case MSRPed at $180 for $50. It's a good examp of a basic rod with no fancy embellishments at a very reasonable price. If you're not rich you have to be patient:-)
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docwatson

docwatson

Location : Central Massachusetts and midcoast Maine
Registration date : 2008-03-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 6:45 pm

Nice finds Kevin.
Reddington rods are excellent and you got a bargain in that deal. That's great. What a great find for an Orvis sinking line. And yes, it's amazing the prices of lines lately. What's up with that??? I have lines that I've used for 15 years that are still in excellent condition, so I guess I shouldn't complain about price if you cost average them out for that long a time.
We have almost a foot of snow here today, but soon to be gone I hope with warmer weather coming and the rivers will be in good shape for some early season trout fishing.
You can never have enough fly rods, like pipes!!! They just keep piling up!!! And I don't mean expensive ones either, because I, like you, have enough patience to find what I like and for the right price.
Very Happy
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MisterE
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Location : Mexico City
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 8:31 pm

^^ I love the Redingtons! My favorite pack rod ever was a 3wt 7'. Terrific small stream rod that went everywhere with me. I had it for about 12 years until the tip finally snapped unceremoniously while putting it together one afternoon. I never sent it off to get fixed. Maybe I should.
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williamcharles

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Age : 69
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 01, 2012 10:06 pm

If fly fishing for panfish and bass counts, then I'm a fly fisherman...if it doesn't then I'm not.
I mainly fish for catfish. Channel cats on a fly rod can be real fun but I usually use level wind reels, high and low profile.


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finsup21



Registration date : 2012-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 02, 2012 9:11 pm

I've been fly fishing in salt for about 10 years. A 9 weight fast action Orvis, 10 weight intermediate line most times, and an old Battenkill reel by Orvis as well. It was close to a high end rig at the time and still never fails. And while I love striper fishing you can't beat blues on a fly rod for serious action. Just be prepared to beat up and lose a lot of flies.

As far as the panfish goes, a nice fat sunfish or crappie on a light outfit is some of the best action you will ever have.
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KevinM



Age : 77
Location : Connecticut
Registration date : 2012-02-26

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyFri Mar 02, 2012 11:34 pm

>>>it's amazing the prices of lines lately. What's up with that???<<<

Funny you should ask. It's a petroleum product, of course, but there's more at work it says here. I also have very old lines that are still in service ... but that's not good for manufacturers. So one thing they've done is try to make old lines obsolete by bringing out specialty lines and specialty tapers.

F'rinstance, I used to go after smallies with a #8 outfit and a DT floating line. Silly me. Now the smallies expect me to have an $80 WF bass bug taper line. I 've also used a DT line for streamers. Now there's a special rod and line designed just for streamers.

You can still buy perfectly good lines in the mid-price range --- Cortland 444, for instance. But the new specialty products tend to drive up the price of lines in the mid-range, I suspect. To be charitable, they could also drive up manufacturing quality and enhance durability.

One thing I've noticed -- many line manufacturers produce WF floating lines that are usually advertised as suitable for "beginnners" or as "spares." I've lucked upon them at end-of-season sales for $10 or less. I've used one for casting practice in my backyard. I noticed it was a good, durable line for the purpose. Then I started carrying the practice outfit in the truck for opportunistic use. It passed that test, too. So I now have about $30 worth of these low priced, "beginner" lines, all in their original, plain Jane packaging. No one will know how little I paid for them when I put them to work astream:-)
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billm67



Location : Central Pennsylvania
Registration date : 2011-07-08

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 10:35 am

I haven't fished much in the last 10 years or so...but the bug has gotten me again. I have 6-7 rods and 5 or 6 reels. I live in Central PA, so I am in the heart of some prime limestoners. So most of my equipment is in the 4-6 weight. I have started tying some flies again...but boy the first ones are rough looking. I'll need to find some dumb trout to take one of my flies.
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docwatson

docwatson

Location : Central Massachusetts and midcoast Maine
Registration date : 2008-03-21

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 2:27 pm

Bill,
LOL, I used to tie some great visually looking flies and my friends said that I don't catch nearly as many fish as they do with their ratty/shaggy unimpressive ones that they tied.
And I think they were right. So go ahead and tie up whatever suits your fancy, the trout will love it. Cabin fever is already here, it's time to hit any open water!!!
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billm67



Location : Central Pennsylvania
Registration date : 2011-07-08

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 3:27 pm

Doc...you're just trying to make me feel better....I appreciate that!
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smokinbriar



Age : 50
Location : pennsylvania
Registration date : 2011-02-01

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 8:11 pm

Might be a good year for me to get back into fly fishing.
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williamcharles

williamcharles

Age : 69
Location : Indiana
Registration date : 2011-09-18

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyTue Mar 06, 2012 8:18 pm

finsup21 wrote:
I've been fly fishing in salt for about 10 years. A 9 weight fast action Orvis, 10 weight intermediate line most times, and an old Battenkill reel by Orvis as well. It was close to a high end rig at the time and still never fails. And while I love striper fishing you can't beat blues on a fly rod for serious action. Just be prepared to beat up and lose a lot of flies.

As far as the panfish goes, a nice fat sunfish or crappie on a light outfit is some of the best action you will ever have.

Wait till you hook a large mouth bass on a popper. Get's interesting in a hurry.
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billm67



Location : Central Pennsylvania
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 am

I really want to do some WW fishing this year. I live right next to a warm water creek that has some nice rock bass in it. I just have to walk out my back door to the water.
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mark

Registration date : 2008-07-02

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 21, 2012 5:43 pm

SO ARE WE ALL PRACTICED UP WITH OUR FLYRODS?

I can't find my reel,,,but I don't get near as tangled up without line anyway,,,

looks like a trip to bass pro is in my future,,,hate to see what line is going for now,,,much less a reel,,,

there's a lesson here somewhere,,,don't move, after moving don't renovate, after renovating don't ,,well, you get the idea,,
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Vodomagoo



Location : Conway sc
Registration date : 2012-03-18

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyFri Apr 06, 2012 10:52 pm

I have been fly fishing/tying for about 20 years now, since I was a kidmbut have not for the past 5 years since I moved to coastal sc. I grew up fishing the beaverkill, Delaware and willowemoc and the chances of me finding a brook trout within 4 hours of hear is depressingly bad. I need to pick up a 9wt and hit the salt marshes but I have never tied a salt water pattern in my entire life.

Anyone here fly fish for spot tails here?
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dbl-haul

dbl-haul

Age : 63
Location : twin lakes ohio
Registration date : 2011-05-22

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mark wrote:
SO ARE WE ALL PRACTICED UP WITH OUR FLYRODS?

I can't find my reel,,,but I don't get near as tangled up without line anyway,,,

looks like a trip to bass pro is in my future,,,hate to see what line is going for now,,,much less a reel,,,

there's a lesson here somewhere,,,don't move, after moving don't renovate, after renovating don't ,,well, you get the idea,,

I have picked some good fly lines spooled up on some cheap reels on ebay. if you look close in the pictures you can sometimes see a line ID sticker on the reel. A twenty dollar reel with an eighty dollar line on it.
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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 9:12 am

That's a good idea dbl-haul, I never thought of that.

I found my reel a couple days ago tucked in with the reloading dies. Got to start writing myself notes.

Just got back from popping for bass this morning. What a riot, looking forward to season opening.

Checked out my "hot spot" on the trout stream on the way home. Looks totally different, the winter moved everything around and filled in a couple nice holes.
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Kyle Weiss

Kyle Weiss

Location : Reno, NV
Registration date : 2011-09-18

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptySun Apr 15, 2012 1:17 pm

Someone should sponsor a monthly BoB fishing contest. Reaons: I won't have much time to dunk tackle in the water this year, so I'd vicariously love seeing pictures/weights. Cool
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finsup21



Registration date : 2012-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: How many fly fishermen in the BoB?   How many fly fishermen in the BoB? - Page 3 EmptyMon Apr 16, 2012 9:45 pm

williamcharles wrote:
finsup21 wrote:
I've been fly fishing in salt for about 10 years. A 9 weight fast action Orvis, 10 weight intermediate line most times, and an old Battenkill reel by Orvis as well. It was close to a high end rig at the time and still never fails. And while I love striper fishing you can't beat blues on a fly rod for serious action. Just be prepared to beat up and lose a lot of flies.

As far as the panfish goes, a nice fat sunfish or crappie on a light outfit is some of the best action you will ever have.

Wait till you hook a large mouth bass on a popper. Get's interesting in a hurry.

the first time i ever saw any one catch anything live on a fly rod was when i was a kid on vacation up at long lake in the adirondack mountains. of course he was a pipe smoker too.

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Innes



Age : 56
Location : Alexandria, Va
Registration date : 2011-06-28

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So it's been a while. I moved from Korea to Alexandria, Va and took a FF trip to Idaho. Some pics
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Great water. Beautiful country.
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Caught lots of Cut Throats.
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I'll be back.
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Simple Man

Simple Man

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Beautiful pics! Thanks for posting.
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Dreadgerbil

Dreadgerbil

Location : Boise, Idaho
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I'm a rank amateur but I love to do it. My wife grew up fly-fishing and tying her own flies. She's been teaching me but I have A LONG way to go.

This is me fighting with a tiny wee but very feisty fish back home on the Whitecart river.

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Age : 39
Location : Philly
Registration date : 2011-08-18

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Dreadgerbil wrote:
I'm a rank amateur but I love to do it. My wife grew up fly-fishing and tying her own flies. She's been teaching me but I have A LONG way to go.

This is me fighting with a tiny wee but very feisty fish back home on the Whitecart river.


You're not wearing a kilt...and sporran...are you?
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