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kaitlyn3837

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Registration date : 2013-05-14

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PostSubject: Re: A Rarity? Anyone know about GBDs?   A Rarity? Anyone know about GBDs? - Page 2 EmptyThu Nov 16, 2017 11:14 pm

Richard Burley wrote:
kaitlyn3837 wrote:
... and now I can't find anything about a shape "73" that even remotely comes close to the shape of this pipe. I hope Riff Raff does chime in if he gets a minute!

I'M SO CONFUSED!

I'm curious: that's not a "13" is it, instead of a "73"? The number 13 would make it an oompaul (Hungarian). Sometimes numbers get a bit stylized, the "1" looking amazingly like a "7". Just a thought.

Ooh! I forgot to reply to this one too. It is DEFINITELY a "73". I checked it in 3 different lightings (with my contacts in Wink )
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Age : 62
Location : Here, now. Somewhere else, later...
Registration date : 2007-12-11

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Thanks for the welcome!

Marechal Ruchon & Cie. sold the brand to Oppenheimer in 1902 or so, who changed it to Marechal, Ruchon & Co, Ltd, and used the mark freely. There are rumours that the MR&C brand ceased to exist once Cadogan was formed in 1920, but that's not exactly the case. Whether or not the actual brand continued to exist, Oppenheimer/GBD stamped their silver work with the MR&C marks at least through the 50s, and possibly into the 60s, though I've not seen one that recent.

ftrplt wrote:
I hear everything that's being said about this wonderful piece, including GLP's (Welcome back, sir!). How some ever, I'm still trying to get my head around the "MR&C" on the silver. Why would that stamping be on a 1957 pipe? Just askin'!! cheers FTRPLT
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kaitlyn3837

kaitlyn3837

Registration date : 2013-05-14

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glpease wrote:
Thanks for the welcome!

Marechal Ruchon & Cie. sold the brand to Oppenheimer in 1902 or so, who changed it to Marechal, Ruchon & Co, Ltd, and used the mark freely. There are rumours that the MR&C brand ceased to exist once Cadogan was formed in 1920, but that's not exactly the case. Whether or not the actual brand continued to exist, Oppenheimer/GBD stamped their silver work with the MR&C marks at least through the 50s, and possibly into the 60s, though I've not seen one that recent.

ftrplt wrote:
I hear everything that's being said about this wonderful piece, including GLP's (Welcome back, sir!). How some ever, I'm still trying to get my head around the "MR&C" on the silver. Why would that stamping be on a 1957 pipe? Just askin'!! cheers FTRPLT

It looks like the mystery has indeed been solved then! 1957 sounds right for the markings, the lower case "b", the "new standard" line, AND the perspex stem! Awesome sauce! I wish someone would follow up on your work and documentation and put together a comprehensive history, pics, and info. PipePhil and Pipedia helped me a bit but there is obviously a lot of missing information!

Thank you all for your help, expertise, and info! Now comes the hard part... Deciding whether to tuck it away or sell it to a collector of GBD's! UGH, decisions, decisions.
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Age : 73
Location : Split between Raleigh, NC and OKC, OK
Registration date : 2007-12-15

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glpease wrote:
Thanks for the welcome!

Marechal Ruchon & Cie. sold the brand to Oppenheimer in 1902 or so, who changed it to Marechal, Ruchon & Co, Ltd, and used the mark freely. There are rumours that the MR&C brand ceased to exist once Cadogan was formed in 1920, but that's not exactly the case. Whether or not the actual brand continued to exist, Oppenheimer/GBD stamped their silver work with the MR&C marks at least through the 50s, and possibly into the 60s, though I've not seen one that recent.

ftrplt wrote:
I hear everything that's being said about this wonderful piece, including GLP's (Welcome back, sir!). How some ever, I'm still trying to get my head around the "MR&C" on the silver. Why would that stamping be on a 1957 pipe? Just askin'!! cheers FTRPLT

And I thank you, sir, for all your super information! You're supposed to learn something new everyday...and I just did!! cheers FTRPLT
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Registration date : 2013-01-11

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PostSubject: Re: A Rarity? Anyone know about GBDs?   A Rarity? Anyone know about GBDs? - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 18, 2017 8:50 am

Kaitlyn, how often will you have such a rare pipe to smoke on a special occasion, I think you owe it to yourself to smoke it and let that help you decide since it may be your best smoker and wouldn’t it be a shame to never know?
banjo
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kaitlyn3837

kaitlyn3837

Registration date : 2013-05-14

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fishnbanjo wrote:
Kaitlyn, how often will you have such a rare pipe to smoke on a special occasion, I think you owe it to yourself to smoke it and let that help you decide since it may be your best smoker and wouldn’t it be a shame to never know?
banjo

Ohhhh you do have a good point! I better clean it up and see how it smokes Wink
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