alfredo_buscatti
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I've always found this a confusing topic. Some weeks ago I was talking pipes with a friend that has a good knowledge of pipes and we disagreed about the size of a small Cavvichi prince. I based my opinion on the capacity of a group 4. Just about anyone can tell you that a pipe is a 4; and for that matter a 5 or a 6. The latter two sizes gradate in an expected way from a 4, each perhaps separated from the other by a ~25% increase.
I understand that the ODA designation is for sizes above a 6 but not yet a magnum.
But sizes 1-3 appear to have a less definite measurement. Size 1 is the capacity of a saucer, with flake smoked by someone who smokes slowly ~30 minutes? I'm just guessing and probably doing so poorly as the length of time it takes to smoke a certain capacity can vary widely according to the experience of the person smoking it. This won't do at all. I've named pipes group 2 or 3 depending on how I would envision a steady variance in size down from a group 4, group 1 being the smallest.
When I used to buy pipes from the defunct Knox Cigar Co, I would ask for their take on the size of the bowl, and the reps always replied, "it's about a Dunhill Group X." They made sure to say "Dunhill" and "about." Apparently there are other group designations amongst other manufacturers? Are there Ascorti group sizes? Tsuge? The "about" sizing includes a fudge factor. Thus could anyone judge differently than Knox, purportedly quoting Dunhill's sizing tradition?
Finally I've heard that a Dunhill group 4 for a Bruyere can be, say, different than the same size for a Cumberland. But what we are discussing quite simply is capacity; if sizes can vary among the different classes of Dunhill pipes, this would seem to be a useless scale.
I understand that the ODA designation is for sizes above a 6 but not yet a magnum.
But sizes 1-3 appear to have a less definite measurement. Size 1 is the capacity of a saucer, with flake smoked by someone who smokes slowly ~30 minutes? I'm just guessing and probably doing so poorly as the length of time it takes to smoke a certain capacity can vary widely according to the experience of the person smoking it. This won't do at all. I've named pipes group 2 or 3 depending on how I would envision a steady variance in size down from a group 4, group 1 being the smallest.
When I used to buy pipes from the defunct Knox Cigar Co, I would ask for their take on the size of the bowl, and the reps always replied, "it's about a Dunhill Group X." They made sure to say "Dunhill" and "about." Apparently there are other group designations amongst other manufacturers? Are there Ascorti group sizes? Tsuge? The "about" sizing includes a fudge factor. Thus could anyone judge differently than Knox, purportedly quoting Dunhill's sizing tradition?
Finally I've heard that a Dunhill group 4 for a Bruyere can be, say, different than the same size for a Cumberland. But what we are discussing quite simply is capacity; if sizes can vary among the different classes of Dunhill pipes, this would seem to be a useless scale.