I actually have a few Wilke billiards, fine smokers each one, and a prince which is being refurbished. But, the real winners are 2 1/4 bents which were identified as carved by Steve Johnson when he worked for Wilke. I've had them about 13 years, and Steve worked for Wilke in the early 70s, so they must be at least 35 years old. And, they smoke exceptionally well.