The Feeling of Freedom after Both Doses of Vaccine

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Now that Fauci has been labeled a fraud and cheat, and that hydro does work, I feel pretty good not being vaxx’d and able to get around in public with no mask, or distancing,,,It’s wonderful to be free! I had the hydro years ago to avoid malaria, so my doctor suggested not getting the vax anyway,
I caught malaria in Vietnam and was treated with hydroxychloroquine. It does not create any immunity; none at all, not even to malaria. It's a treatment, not a preventative Your doctor must have earned his M.D. on-line. I hope you are not exposed to Covid's new strains as without a vaccination, you could be a:


I intensely dislike making this personal, but if would make one more person get vaccinated for CV19 and it's mutations, it's worth my time writing. One of my childhood friends dragged along getting his undergraduate degree at U. MN. He was really smart, but his father died when he was very young and he had to work his way through college with no family help. Bear in mind, in the early 1960s college scholarships were nowhere near as available as they are now.
U. MN was on the quarter, not the semester system. My friend, David, had slipped two quarters behind prior to his senior year and been told by Local Board #89 that he had to catch up or be drafted. This was before the lottery. David had taken the LSAT ( law school admissions test) and apparently scored very high and had been granted early admission to the U of MN Law School. He immediately signed up for Navy ROTC.
Long story, short. Graduated law school, inducted into the Navy, assigned to the "Swift boats" in the Mekong Delta where he contracted malaria. He was treated successfully with hydroxychloroquine, as I was.

Last year, prior to the availability of the vaccines, he contracted Covid 19. He was 74 and otherwise healthy; an avid swimmer and skier. I attended his funeral via Zoom.
 
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Don't want to get this sent to the rubber room, but from someone with an overseas perspective, Fauci is doing a bang up job. Dunno why anyone would be complaining about his expertise and insight. He's been doing this for decades without any issues from what I can tell.
 

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Don't want to get this sent to the rubber room, but from someone with an overseas perspective, Fauci is doing a bang up job. Dunno why anyone would be complaining about his expertise and insight. He's been doing this for decades without any issues from what I can tell.
I did a little digging last night, and what I said in my first response to this accusation was proven true. Questionable sites writing articles and spreading these opinions. Nothing mainstream I could find. A solid German news broadcast having Fauci on as their expert just two days ago. But hey, maybe the google algorithm is screwing me with misinformation links. These notions appear to be political propaganda, not revealing any semblance of truths.
 

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I did a little digging last night, and what I said in my first response to this accusation was proven true. Questionable sites writing articles and spreading these opinions. Nothing mainstream I could find. A solid German news broadcast having Fauci on as their expert just two days ago. But hey, maybe the google algorithm is screwing me with misinformation links. These notions appear to be political propaganda, not revealing any semblance of truths.

This exactly. No idea how someone could turn a global pandemic into a political thing but hey, there are idiots everywhere. Our prime muppet, sorry minister, tried the same shit, but our states forced his hand to act against this. Albiet his response has still been woeful but we have far fewer deniers in Aus. Only the most fanatical Murdoch fans are anti mask/vaccine. He was going to let it run so we could build "herd immunity". The dumb effwit was encouraging people to go to the footy and socialise at the start of this.

As to the google algo's buggering up search results, make sure you are logged out of google when searching, I have majorly different results when I'm logged in to than when I'm not. The results seem to be better when I'm not logged in, same with youtube. YT would show me the same videos on repeat when I was logged in, as soon as I logged out, bang, new stuff. Or use duckduckgo or any other search engine.
 

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I wish people would understand that this is a world wide issue. Until at least 70% of all humanity is vaccinated against the CV19 virus, the strains will continue to mutate and keep every woman, man, and child in jeopardy. This must be separated from politics.
 

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To me, Fauci ultimately is a true Great American Hero. Not only for his YEARS of dedicated service through multiple administrations of both parties, but for his successfully navigating the bizarre political scene during Covid by not playing the game. He could have, and arguably should have spoken out much more forcefully on the denial and misinformation being spouted. But even though he would have been right, he would likely have at the least been removed from his position…which would have prevented him from steering the process in as good a direction as was possible…thus likely saving thousands upon thousands of Americans. You only have to look at the history of relatively modern science to be reminded of great men who were gagged or killed for their proclaiming truth to power. So ultimately pharmaceutical manufacturers focused on MRNA vaccines instead of bottling Mr Clean for internal consumption. That and HydroxyC are certainly the modern equivalent of being bled or having leaches applied or whatever. Yeeeesh!
 

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Just really enjoy having my two "jabs!!" Starting to see businesses/stores/restaurants & bars where no mask requirement exists. Does make me wonder how many people don't have their two jabs, but worrying about that will accomplish nothing!! We still carry our masks with us and us them until directed otherwise or we feel safe!! FTRPLT
 

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I grew up venerating Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin, whose vaccines virtually eradicated polio in the U.S. I do not recall anyone ever politicizing these vaccines, but I remember getting the Salk vaccine by injection at my public elementary school.
 

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To me, Fauci ultimately is a true Great American Hero. Not only for his YEARS of dedicated service through multiple administrations of both parties, but for his successfully navigating the bizarre political scene during Covid by not playing the game. He could have, and arguably should have spoken out much more forcefully on the denial and misinformation being spouted. But even though he would have been right, he would likely have at the least been removed from his position…which would have prevented him from steering the process in as good a direction as was possible…thus likely saving thousands upon thousands of Americans. You only have to look at the history of relatively modern science to be reminded of great men who were gagged or killed for their proclaiming truth to power. So ultimately pharmaceutical manufacturers focused on MRNA vaccines instead of bottling Mr Clean for internal consumption. That and HydroxyC are certainly the modern equivalent of being bled or having leaches applied or whatever.
A very well stated and reasoned post.
Fauci is 80 years old and looks lean and healthy. I'd feel better if he had even a hint of a gut.
They still do use leeches in some medical applications, particularly in plastic surgery. Leeches secrete peptides and proteins that work to prevent blood clots. You gotta watch Botched.
 

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Sorry guys, no vaccine for me, I do not trust this vaccine that was rushed out to combat a curable virus. To each his own.
 

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As I wrote previously, I hope those who elect not to get vaccinated do not contract CV19. It can and does often lead to an horrific death. The current number of confirmed CV19 deaths in the U.S. exceeds 600,000. Those who died would be alive if the virus were cureable.
 

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Good morning,
I have had many friends and family come down with the covid virus 98% were sick for 7-10 days and did not suffer at all,Unless you have certain medical conditions the virus is not fatal. furthermore there have been over 10,000 deaths or more of normal healthy people who have gotten the miracle vaccine. { the media keeps on removing/hiding this info from the public} I personally will not be risking my life on a vaccine that was rushed to the market. I was reading an article online about a rise in heart inflammation and valve problems in people under 30 that received the vaccine here in NY-This article also mysteriously disappeared ! Another thing is no one really knows what the long term affects this vaccine will bring say 5-10 years from now-something to think about! If you guys are happy with your vaccine,that's great many of us will not be getting any vaccine period.
 

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As I wrote previously, I hope those who elect not to get vaccinated do not contract CV19. It can and does often lead to an horrific death. The current number of confirmed CV19 deaths in the U.S. exceeds 600,000. Those who died would be alive if the virus were cureable.
Best wishes to all. May you all remain healthy. I lost several friends and classmates to CV19.
On Saturday, I learned that a friend, who is an ardent, anti-vaxer because she attributes her adult son's autism and developmental disabilities to childhood vaccination, is herself now on a ventilator with CV19. Other than being somewhat overweight, she had no other known health issues before being stricken. If she is conscious and aware, I'm quite certain that her primary concern is for her son, who up until her hospitalization, lived with her; now in temporary placement in a county group home for developmentally disabled men.

We all have to make choices, some life threatening, others life affirming. As a schoolboy, I was given the Salk vaccine for polio. Some close family friends refused to have their children vaccinated. The middle daughter ultimately contracted the disease and wound up with a lifelong limp. She died suddenly at age 53. There was concern about the nature of her death and an autopsy was performed. It was clearly determined that her death was the end product of her poliomyelitis infection. Her parents, still hale and hearty in their late 70s, were devastated by her death and their ultimate responsibility for it.
 

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One of the problems with how anything is reported, and then how we all receive it, is the use of exceptions and anecdotal reasoning. Judging a situation by either method is careless and a gamble; a gamble that I don't neccesarily oppose, either. "My aunt smoked four packs of unfiltered Lucky Strikes a day, and she lived to be 92 years old." Or, "my father exercised every day of his life, and he died of clogged arteries at 55 years old." They also love to do this with veterans and people who are born with physical disabilities. "Look at this Marine who was in the Middle East for three tours, had his legs blown off, and now he's a paraplegic Olympian." Or, "Look at the blind man who climbed Mt.Everest and who runs marathons." The exceptions that probably can't even be put in a percentage of success rates that obviously don't represent the problems and issues that the vast percentage of people in similar situations face. My concern is that this form of feel-good story or whatnot could potentially put pressure on people who aren't like that, and it is difficult for me to believe that they function as healthy motivators.

*edit: and there is no arguing that the vaccine could have longterm effects we can't know. As for a disappearing article, that could be many things, including the implied burying of the truth. It could also have been a "bad" article with a retraction. It could be a search engine algorithm placing the link on the fifteenth page.
 
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“There is no arguing that the vaccine could have long term effects we can’t know”

Right there is the crux of the matter………..long term effects.!!!!! I’m not willing to take the chance.
 
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