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KevinM

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My missus has begun to object to Mixture 965 smoked indoors, so I’ve been auditioning milder smokes for New England’s indoor smoking season. Requirementswere: 1) Had to be smokable indoors and upstairs, 2) Had to be satisfying smokes, not just nice smelling for the rest of the family. It just happens they’re all bulks, because that’s what I smoke mostly. The tobaccos are – a Wilke Pipeworks sampler and Lane’s RLP-6 and 1Q,. I hadn’t puffed an aro in years, Plumcake aside. Some thoughts for y’all.

The thing I liked about the Wilke sampler is that the taste is as advertised plus there is a satisfying tobacco taste. The products are a little pricey, but that’s forgotten once I’m nestled with a smoldering bowlful. As a bonus, ordering can have an Olde New Englande charm. Carole once told me that she’d mail my order asap, but that morning she had a group from the local old folks home picnicking in her front yard. I still got the order in a couple days.

Wilke 191 – Wilke’s biggest seller. Vanilla and honey, it says, and that’s what it tastes like. Halfway through, the topping takes a rest and it tastes like a quality Virginia for awhile, and then the vanilla/honey comes back. Never has a bitter taste. Zero bite for me. Don’t smoke it in a pipe you’ve used for English blends, because the 191 is so mild that it will be overwhelmed. “That smells good,” she said.

Wilke Vermont Maple Cavendish – This tobacco made me larf out loud on first light, because I got a mouthful of maple syrup taste, and almost immediately a passerby asked, “What’s that? It smells great!” “I’m smoking a waffle,” I said. Progress a bit into the bowl, and there’s a nice, satisfying tobacco taste (Virginia?). And when the bowl is done, the taste of maple syrup lingers awhile on the palette, which is nice while I’m out walking the dog. No bite, no bitter taste.

Wilke Rumcake – I’d say this is what other Rumcake blends are shooting for. The taste is subtle, but clearly present, and there’s a nice taste of sweet Va and some nutty Burley. No bite, no bitterness, and some compliments on the pleasant aroma. I think this will also pass the indoor test.

Wilke 515 – This is described as Basil Rathbone’s standing order, a blend of “exotic tobaccos in a rare Jamaican rum.” I like its spicey taste, found it to be an agreeable reading companion indoors and a happy companion on a stroll. It burns slowly, requires no fuss to keep lit and is agreeably smooth. But it can get peppery toward the end, and if I push it further, it delivers a dose of vitamin N. Some may see that as a plus. However, You-Know-Who had little good to say about the smell (“Stop! It’s constricting my throat!”), so I’m aiming to see how well it fares in my fly-tying cave downstairs this winter. If it flunks that test, I’ll have to reserve 515 for New England’s outdoor smoking season.

Wilke Nut Brown Burley – Not an aro, but I was curious. Years ago, I really liked a cube-cut Burley (222 I think it said on the tin, but it’s been awhile) that had a nice, mild, nutty taste, was a terrific all-day smoke and was very low maintenance. Then it became unavailable. I’ve been hunting ever since. Wilke NBB is very good, indeed, but not the old friend I’d hoped to find. My sample seems to be tobacco chips. It’s a tasty Burley smoke with some spiciness to it. My MM Diplomats like it a lot. I mixed part of my sample with an equal part of 5100 and put it up for a few months. I’m optimistic. Not an indoor smoke for me, though.

Lane RLP-6 and 1Q. – Both are easy to pack, light and smoke. Neither bites. They’re allowed indoors, in my house, at least. Both have a similar tasty topping and both also offer the smoker some tobacco taste. Okay, the tobacco taste is somewhat generic. Neither has the aro curse -- smell good, taste bad. My shot at describing the topping: It’s like the teaspoonful of marshmallow/cocoa you skim off the top of a freshly served cup of cocoa. Or it’s like the last bite from a melting chocolate/vanilla ice cream bar. I didn’t detect so much as a hint of a nip while smoking my 4 oz of each of these blends, nor did I get a single complaint from You-Know-Who about “stinking up the house.”

Of the two, the 1Q gets the nod from me, because it has a little more of the taste, RLP-6 was a little bitter at the end of the bowl and seemed slightly astringent at times. But, to tell the truth, I wouldn’t feel at all deprived if I had only the RLP-6 to take on a week long vacation . The gripe of some pipesters about these Lane blends is that they are monotonously the same from start to finish. I don’t entirely agree, but if your thing is chasing that subtle hint of crème brule, these won’t be your favs. But I know what I’m getting as soon as I light up, both generate an ample cloud of tasty smoke, I’d be hard put to name lower maintenance tobaccos, and check the prices!
 
You just reminded me I'm almost out of Nut Brown Burley.

I also have to say Wilke's #13 is a sweet Latakia mix that has gotten plenty of compliments on the room note. I don't smoke it much anymore, but my partner does, and it really does smell a treat.

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You've essentially laid out a buffet table of desserts. If that's what does it for you, fine.

If you should want a tobacco that's more like nutritious food, with a subtle, mild but intriguingly NICE flavor that leaves a pleasant room note behind, Union Square.

Mrs. Yak frequently remarks (on coming into the room five minutes after I've finished a pipe of it), "I thought you were going to smoke a pipe ?!?"

Her sniffer may be off a tad, but not by THAT far.

FWIW

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Not so sure on the Union Square, with all due respect to Mrs. Yak. I've had some folks say it smells like cigarettes, others say toasted bread. Others say it's very mild and innocent. McC FMC 2000 is the only tobacco that seems to satisfy my tongue and those nearby almost every time. It's still a little too "desserty" to make it in my pipe frequently, though.

This is me smoking some US as we speak...it's still tasty... hehehe

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The two kitty litter boxes in the bedroom-bathroom here may have something to do with her smell acuity :lol:

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Oh geez. :pale: :lol: Stinky kitties. :cat: Nothing aromatic about that...or too much so...one of the two.
 
While I'm not not nor have I ever been an indoor smoker...for a variety of reasons...mostly related to my disinclination re poisoning my family...please, no offense, just a different approach.

For me, it's more a matter of 'maintaining' my hobby in the outdoor world where one's drifting smoke is likely to waft past a potential whistle blower...or anyone for that matter. I've found that with most blends, aros and other...esp. the full, rich and dark ones that the most likely resonse (especailly from ladies accompanying a guy that's sucking on a cig) related to how wonderfull they thing the aroma is. But women in general seem to be more vocal and 90% of the time it's something positive. Guys don't tend to comment as men in general won't engage in conversation with someone who is so obviously superior.

Blends that generate more positive comments? Not Latakia. Not KY dark fired. yes to most Burleys. Yes to many, many VA and VA/Per and VA/Per/Turkish blends...esp those with lots of Red VA. Just an observation.



PS: Nix to the Lane. Yea to the Wilke.
 
Kyle Weiss":utuocoof said:
Not so sure on the Union Square, with all due respect to Mrs. Yak. I've had some folks say it smells like cigarettes, others say toasted bread. Others say it's very mild and innocent. McC FMC 2000 is the only tobacco that seems to satisfy my tongue and those nearby almost every time. It's still a little too "desserty" to make it in my pipe frequently, though.

This is me smoking some US as we speak...it's still tasty... hehehe

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I would concur completely about both of the above mentioned tobacs. I smoke FM #2000 almost daily and get nothing but compliments from others about it's aroma and the taste is soooooo good as well ! Another that I've smoked and found from the reactions to be favorable is a blend from Low Country called Santee. A nice Va based blend with a light apple scent in the tin and room note and a nice Va sweetness and no PG and it smokes cool and dry as well. :p
 
>>You've essentially laid out a buffet table of desserts<<<

Well, that would be my bad, more than likely. My maple syrup comment reflected my first light up in a meer. One thing I like about the Wilke offerings is that the flavoring is subtle and is nicely balanced with the "nutritious" ;) taste of the tobacco. I noticed on the TR board that some reviewers say they like Wilke aromatics, but can't taste the flavorings. Could be that they're packing them in briars that have seen a lot of strong English blends. I've tried Union Square (or was it Union Leader?) and thought the room note was cigaretty, a trait that my womenfolk believe eternally clings to one's haiir and clothing and, therefore, is not acceptable in The Presence.
 
I've had good 'room note' feedback with a lot of Vapers - notably McClelland St James Woods. My GF's sister basically told me that based on the smell she could see why I smoke a pipe - which I counted that as a great victory!
 
Blackhorse":vaq5xlii said:
While I'm not not nor have I ever been an indoor smoker...for a variety of reasons.
Same here. I have said it before: I don't want "smoke mess." Everything turns the same shade of tawny, books get hard to clean, as to most surfaces. If you have pets, dust and hair simply gets everywhere and stays there. Filth makes my skin crawl.

If I had my druthers, I'd have a small, private room with a bunch of open windows and a sliding glass door (that hopefully went onto an awesome deck) for smoking during all occasions and weather.

The few aros I like are mainly for others, but they have to satisfy strength/flavor requirements for me.
 
Blackhorse":mrk3742f said:
Guys don't tend to comment as men in general won't engage in conversation with someone who is so obviously superior.
I admit, this cracked me up.
 
>>>I smoke FM #2000 almost daily<<<

Yesss! And I have approx half a pound in my tobacco hoard that I'd forgotten about. Someday I have to do an inventory that is up to date and includes the small amounts. Thanks.

Re: indoor smoking.

It depends what you smoke, how much you smoke and the efficiency of your HVAC system. I haven't smoked indoors since, oh, last March, maybe. At the most, I don't average more than six or seven bowls a week. But New England's climate can force us indoors, and indoor pipe-smoking, I'd say, is a distant third behind kitty litter trays, woodstoves and the ladies' affection for those wretched scented candles that discolor ceilings and the &!XYZ*! stains can't be painted over. In any event, there's room aplenty between "Nowhere, never" and "Any time, any place."
 
I have found filter systems, HVAC systems and the like to be completely irrelevant to mess making and maintenance, all for a little heat or cool. When my parents had their motorcycle shop I talked a lot to the maintenance engineers for the hotel/casino it was in. State-of-the-art, proper cubic-feet circulatory systems filters designed for smoke put a dent in the issue, but was almost not worth it due to the machine maintenance required.

He said often, "If we don't clean these things every day, we have a problem. And that problem is the housekeeping calling us up and complaining because they have those folk on lockdown with a count of every dust and smoke particle that gets left behind and how much they have to pay them to clean. They KNOW when the system isn't working, and so do I--I don't get much sleep when that happens."

I just smoke when the weather is suited for it. Hot days always have a cool side, cold days always have a warm one. When those moments need a little help, a shelter of some kind is great. Fire pit, good chairs, lights, seating... you can have a living room outside these days. :lol:

I hate cleaning, and I hate filth, but I can't afford a maid. :|
 
I'll show my Eastern provincialism -- Does Reno have a winter worthy of the name? My impression is that it gets cool when the sun goes down and hot when it comes up. So cute sleeveless vests, not sturdy parkas, are sufficient.

Commercial HVAC apps are tricky affairs according to an old pal of mine who managed the system for the HQ of a large financial svcs co. "Why can't you regulate the temp on this steenkin complex?" I whined. "It's either too hot or too cold. And it's always way too dry. I'm always wheezing and scratching, which stops as soon as I go outside." He explained that the HVAC wasn't managed for our comfort. It's managed to avoid an outbreak of Legionairre's Disease, which is potentially fatal and always poses a danger from legal liability. "That's right," said the co's medical director who was standing there wheezing and scratching.

Well, there, you've made me hijack my own dang thread. So, I'll close by saying, there isn't a piper in New England who hasn't smoked indoors. Must be why we're tougher 'n boiled owls.
 
Blackhorse":9f9nmbx3 said:
Blends that generate more positive comments? Not Latakia. Not KY dark fired. yes to most Burleys. Yes to many, many VA and VA/Per and VA/Per/Turkish blends...esp those with lots of Red VA.
I started out breaking in my new pipes smoking in the woodshed attached to the basement of the house. I was encouraged to bring it in to the house. Some blends have gotten "not as good as others" comments but nothing I have smoked has elicited any seriously negative comments. I would concur then with Blackhorse's comments for a general guide as the list is too extensive to compile for an in-thread posting. However I'm not unwilling to do so by special request, a PM maybe being the best vehicle for such.
 
Wife and I actually had a minute to ourselves the other night. We sat out on the deck in the late evening, after the little man finally fell asleep, and I lit some McClelland Dark Navy Flake. To me, blends like this smell sweet and pleasant, and I would consider them to have a nice room note. My wife, a non-smoker who grew up hating that fact that her mother chain smoked Newports, actually commented that she did not like the way this one smelled. She said it smelled just like cigarettes.

This from the woman who likes latakia because it smells like church - but hates church*. I guess it just goes to show that we (me at least) are not necessarily the best judge of room note.







* Hates church in a petulant child kind of way, not a terrorist, I'm gonna blow you up kind of way.
 
* Hates church in a petulant child kind of way, not a terrorist, I'm gonna blow you up kind of way.

I guess that is important to note in this day and age. :D
 
Dave, I can relate to your wife. I love churches in the fact I like what they do for people, I like to tour them if they're particularly ornate or historic, but I like to be free to leave when necessary. :lol: One guy I know said Latakia smells like an old man's bookstore, one with leather chairs, a roaring fire, something from a Dickens novel. *shrug* Zack's mom thinks Ten Russians smells like burning hot dogs...the first time I said I'd put it out she said, "No no, I like that smell."

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