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Guys...all of us are or were in this all together at one time or another. I just read Blackhorse's post from yesterday morning and it brings back painful memories. I worked hard at school to get my degrees and I worked hard to become skilled at my profession. I worked multiple jobs and always gave my best shot to every employer; yet still, I got pink slipped several times. Once I ran a doctors office for three men, two of whom were brothers and who were fighting with each other constantly. One brother accused me of siding with the other and accused me of stealing a computer disc from the office that I was asked to take home each evening for more than a year to safeguard patient accounts in case of a computer meltdown. The night I was terminated I was physically blocked from leaving the office until he inspected my briefcase which I refused to allow. (I did not take the disc that night). I had to call the police who of course arrived to shove the doctor away from my office door and escort me out to my car. The officer arrived, came into my office, and after a WTF conversation told the doctor to be glad he was not dragged out cuffed for his unlawful behavior. Needless to say two days later I was served with a subpoena by that idiot and of course the case never went to a court.

I could go on and on. Blackhorse and I are peers. We both encountered life as it really is. The difference in our work years was that there were no computers and no internet. Job searches were typewritten letters and want ads in the newspaper. The search was more time consuming and more tedious, but the stress at home was always there. My wife went back to work early in our marriage and I was home with a two year old until I relocated. Two more boys came into our lives and jobs began and jobs ended. In another practice three other docs disagreed and I was fired. An office colleague called my home before I even arrived and the news was already blown to my wife the evening before we were to fly to California from NY for a family wedding. On my first job, after 10 years as Senior Assistant Administrator at the Catholic Medical Center of New York the Director of Nursing who was a Dominican nun called my home and also spoke to my wife horrified by what had happened to me. Needless to say that entire 1000 bed hospital system was corrupt and folded. Throughout my professional work years I had self incorporated and did freelance practice management. Because I "had a business" I was ineligible for unemployment insurance. Thankfully I had a part-time evening job teaching so I had health insurance from the New School University.

The work-a-day shit only ends when we reach our 60's and then we can retire and tell all employers to go and fnck themselves. Until then we have to take the lumps, know we are not at fault, and move on the the next opportunity. The economy now is bad and there are no good jobs. Romney and Bain Capital are poster boy and classic example of what is bound to happen on any day to any working man; blue collar or professional. When it happens, family and friends need to stick by and give support, encouragement, and also afford privacy. Wives need to understand also and there needs to be a family plan. Savings need to be amassed, retirement plans should not be touched and both husband and wife need to develop careers, have equal responsibility as partners to work inside and outside of the home so that when one spouse stumbles the other one is there to hold up the family. Health insurance also must be maintained.

My wife and I never allowed ourselves expensive vacations, expensive clothes, expensive cars, or expensive home furnishings. We never lost sight of what's important. What's important is your marriage, your family, and your security. Hang tough, and your next job will come along. Understand and accept the fact that it gets you from point A to point B and it too will end. When you get to your golden years you retire to your porch, smoke your pipe, relax, and worry for your children. You hope their opportunities are better for them than your's were for you and you are grateful that you don't have to go out to look for another job.

Sorry for this rant but I needed to write it. Rob and others....I feel your pain and I am sorry that you too are reliving my life experiences.
 
Marty, it's weird...it's almost as if you said to move on to the next opportunity, but then there are no jobs and apparently no hope, but to go look for a job and live within means.

I'm certainly confused. Then again, I'm in the mining industry. The sad truth out there is there's always opportunity when there's a downturn in economies, world or local. Economics isn't an all-or-nothing thing-- just the mining industry is. :lol: People just gotta get creative where they look for these opportunities, and sadly, most people have been put on set of rails and told not to deviate from them, and have been... *ahem*... trained a certain way, taught a certain way to think about problem solving.

So, eventually things will improve. Some say this is already happening. Good economies are bad for commodities, and I'll be looking for other work one day, too--cycle of my life. Joblessness is the mother of all self-reinvention.

8)

 
Kyle: Read carefully....I said no GOOD JOBS. There are jobs but they probably will not last. That is a given and must be accepted. Unemployment is a fact of life that must be accepted and worked around now more than before. The days of working on the same job for multiple years for many is as old as your grandfather's Studebaker.
 
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Kyle: Read carefully....I said no GOOD JOBS. There are jobs but they probably will not last. That is a given and must be accepted. Unemployment is a fact of life that must be accepted and worked around now more than before. The days of working on the same job for multiple years for many is as old as your grandfather's Studebaker.
I read it again, it still seems doom-like. I don't think that's a given and I don't accept it, nor the notion nothing will last work-wise. Nope, it isn't the same as it used to be. Saying unemployment is a fact of life is damn negative and a crap attitude--which is more a fact of life than unemployment will be. JMHO.

Another HO: Want a job that might give you multiple years of employment? It's called self-employment. *raises hand* I can vouch.

8)
 
George Kaplan":s8l9w17p said:
Rob, by any chance is your Inbox full? I sent you a PM yesterday and it's still sitting in my Outbox. I'm not sure how the system works, but "poorly" is one word that comes to mind.
Sorry George, that does happen from time to time. Inbox is only 25% full now and I sent you a reply. 8)
 
Thanks Doc. It'll work out for the best, i'm sure!

Marty and Kyle - you both bring up good points.

Marty - I didn't take your rant as a doom & gloom post. I completely understand what you were saying, and living within our means is something my wife and I have always practiced (well, me more than her :mrgreen: ). We've all been shafted by employers in the past, and i'm no different than anyone else in that matter. Savings we have, but not enough of. :D

Kyle - economies bounce both ways. When areas are up, others are down. Self-Employment is also another viable option, and this time of year the Lawn Service industry is doing pretty well. I've done this for extra income in the past, and am thinking seriously about picking that back up - at least for the time being.

Next week I'll get serious about doing this (or something), right now i'm taking the weekend off and spending it with my family. You understand, I hope.
 
Enjoying time off with your family? Auch nein! Härter arbeiten! :lol:

Take time to figure things out and gain your bearings. You'll figure it out.

Marty is quite right about living within means, but my problem is with not spurring the dream. Giving up and saying unemployment is just a fact of life and there's no such thing as years of work just isn't dreaming, it's morally-implied pauperism by those who think somehow a cultural uprising is going to trump the motivation of a better life. I'm a grand master of living well within my means--and that isn't a contradiction in terms. I still eat, have luxuries like musical instruments and pipes and pay the rent--every cent counts. 8)

 
Sorry about your job loss. It sucks. I remember going through it about 14 years ago.
 
Hang in there Rob, my company was sold and scrapped (after working there 30 years) and I came out ahead with a better job, but it took a whole year and some retraining. It's easy to say "keep a positive attitude" but that's what it takes. You're no dummy and we're all pulling for you. Something will turn up. My thoughts are with you and your family.
 
Condolences, and best of luck--when I got sacked getting on unemployment was fairly easy, and, thankfully, not necessary for very long. Hope the same is true in your case, and they don't make you jump through too many hoops to get on the MO doll.
 
Well you will have more time to smoke :cheers: but in all seriousness how you find abetter job that ya love.
 
Hey Rob,
its summer man! come on out to Montana.

I can get you on at a number of ranches either changing water lines in the alfalfa fields twice a day.
or herdin sheep

They both will give you living quarters, but the sheepherders get a little gypsy like trailer, with a wood stove, that they pull around with the herd. Heck , all you do is scare offf Wolves and Mtn lions, with the help of those big white dogs that live with the herd. oh, and you keep the shhep from eating plant species that'll make em sick or kill em , thats it man!
You can sit on a hilltop with a killer Montana view, and smoke your pipe , while staring at a bunch of white dots on the hillside..(the sheep)

The going pay is only $750.00 a month, but hell , its 7 days a week, so you never get to town to spend money anyhow.

The water changin jobs are pretty much filled with mexican's, and they are all here on contracts.

The last ranch I was on, I worked 7 days a week , but the water changers worked 5 1/2 because they were on contract.. and they got payed more than me ... :evil:
I left that place as soon as I figured that out.

Plus , theres all kinds of seasonal "Guest Ranch " jobs, mostly cookin.
Come huntin season, theyll be hirin alot of cooks for out in the base camps.


Montana's callin for ya Rob!!!!! It'd be like a vacation .

 
Rob - Hey man I am a bit late to the party on this one, I don't peruse this portion of the forum as much as I should.

Have any interest in a near 100g's of Sillem's Black? Let me know and it will be in the mail tomorrow for you.

Chris
 
Sorry to hear about your job, but as others have already said, use the downtime to relax. The troughs are often as important as the summit.
 
Rob, sorry to hear about your job. I am sure you have heard it before, but sometimes its a good idea to consider other fields where your skills also are valued. Don't forget to spend some time doing things you find fun.
 
That really sucks Rob, I wish you all the best...things always work out in the end.
 
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