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Looks like Pittsburgh's back to Business as Usual . . . :no:
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Karma is a biotch brother... care to tell some more Browns jokes? lol
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The frustrating thing about Pittsburgh is it should have it's shit together but doesn't. Instead of being connected with, you know, reality, it retreats into this parallel dimension belief system where it thinks it can beat Manning (or Brady) by playing soft zone and "waiting for him to make a mistake." And then won't (or can't) adjust.
Wasting the first half trying to establish the run with third-string and emergency reserve lineman (they only dressed seven, so if another guy would have gone down, they'd have been playing a tight end) was . . . par for the course.
With the people it had at the first day of training camp, and what they should be able to do, that was nauseating.
But, for all the stink, take back two bad passes & we won the game.
Like the Superbowl against Green Bay. Two bad plays away . . .
That's what galls you. That they play better than their game planning, play calling & coaching.
They shouldn't HAVE TO.
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Wasting the first half trying to establish the run with third-string and emergency reserve lineman (they only dressed seven, so if another guy would have gone down, they'd have been playing a tight end) was . . . par for the course.
With the people it had at the first day of training camp, and what they should be able to do, that was nauseating.
But, for all the stink, take back two bad passes & we won the game.
Like the Superbowl against Green Bay. Two bad plays away . . .
That's what galls you. That they play better than their game planning, play calling & coaching.
They shouldn't HAVE TO.
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If the Steelers would've played the first 3 quarters like they did in the 4th, Pittsburgh would've had that one. No question!
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That wasn't karma.
That was (sigh) Pittsburgh.
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That was (sigh) Pittsburgh.
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Yeah and if only my pecker was 8 inches longer I coulda been in the porn industry. What coulda been and if only don't mean Crap in the NFL.
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Not argued. But if you're assessing the team, you look beyond the score :
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Not intending to be an ass... BUT.. Steelers 0-1 Thats the only thing that matters
Right now they are the same spot as cincinasty, Miami, Kansas City, Tennessee. 0-1
Thats one of the things I love about the NFL. You can what if, coulda been, shoulda been, and quote 50 million others.. but at the end of the day a W or L is all that matters. I cant remember who it was but I heard an interview with a player once and he was asked "Whats the most important stat in the game?" His answer.. "The score at the final whistle."
Luck, skill, injury, madden bullshit (when the AI does something stupid in the Madden 13) it's interesting, but it doesn't matter.
Right now they are the same spot as cincinasty, Miami, Kansas City, Tennessee. 0-1
Thats one of the things I love about the NFL. You can what if, coulda been, shoulda been, and quote 50 million others.. but at the end of the day a W or L is all that matters. I cant remember who it was but I heard an interview with a player once and he was asked "Whats the most important stat in the game?" His answer.. "The score at the final whistle."
Luck, skill, injury, madden bullshit (when the AI does something stupid in the Madden 13) it's interesting, but it doesn't matter.
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In case you missed the Ravens last night, that is how you win a Game 1.
Love the Brown jokes; I will be sending them to the two Brownie fans in my office.
It looks like I'll be making a little trip to New Orleans in January.........
Love the Brown jokes; I will be sending them to the two Brownie fans in my office.
It looks like I'll be making a little trip to New Orleans in January.........
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Bawlmer looked like Bawlmer = Ray Lewis on a team that plays up to its potential. That's a formula they can go far with. Because teams like the Steelers, with much greater potential, play down to the level of their competition, make mistakes, don't have their shit together, don't game plan well, don't adjust, and depend on a few standouts like Roethlisberger, Wallace & Polamalu to save their sorry asses after 58 minutes of under-acheivement by players and coaches alike.
Same with the Bengals . . . kind of, on a reduced scale.
Consistency.
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PeeB : nobody disputes that the score counts and the rest is words. Nobody disputes we blew dogs against Manning. But even so, two plays and the score is a "W." That's the consolation I come away with. The problem is definable and fix-able --not hopeless.
How much would the Brownies have to fix, all at the same time, to threaten the AFCN status quo ?
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Same with the Bengals . . . kind of, on a reduced scale.
Consistency.
ullinghair:PeeB : nobody disputes that the score counts and the rest is words. Nobody disputes we blew dogs against Manning. But even so, two plays and the score is a "W." That's the consolation I come away with. The problem is definable and fix-able --not hopeless.
How much would the Brownies have to fix, all at the same time, to threaten the AFCN status quo ?
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Riff Raff.. Bragging about looking good vs Cincinasty? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: Yeah.
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Hey, it could be our last win of the season......can you blame me?puros_bran":pn2idp61 said:
That red-headed stepchild of a QB for Cincy had our D gasping for air for a quarter or so. That doesn't bode well for when we face an experienced QB...
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A lot of surprises this week ! :shock:
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Bellicheat Last Night :
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Our defense is so complicated that it takes new guys three years to learn it. But it's so inflexible that quarterbacks who've faced it before can easily pick it apart. It's THAT predictable. They see how we're lined up, audible, and they're off to the races.
We can't run worth sh*t. Same story there.
Our only weapon is Ben. Because he's so unpredictable (especially after the play breaks down) he's indefensible.
Sad.
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Lombardi’s favorite play was his “power sweep.” John Madden recalled a coaching seminar he attended that featured a lecture by Lombardi on the play.
“I went in there cocky thinking I knew everything there was to know about football,” reflected Madden who was a young assistant at the time, “and he spent eight hours talking about this one play. He talked for four hours, took a break and came back and talked four more.” Madden shook his head. “I realized then that I actually knew nothing about football.”
Mind you at this time Madden had coached DI for 7 years and had just been hired to coach the Raiders.
http://www.pghsportsforum.com/forum/showthread.php/14907-Time-To-Stop-Blaming-The-Defensive-Scheme-When-You-Don-t-Understad-What-The-Scheme-Does?s=086fd519e82ca6500af08b5ec6a5ae4f
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“I went in there cocky thinking I knew everything there was to know about football,” reflected Madden who was a young assistant at the time, “and he spent eight hours talking about this one play. He talked for four hours, took a break and came back and talked four more.” Madden shook his head. “I realized then that I actually knew nothing about football.”
Mind you at this time Madden had coached DI for 7 years and had just been hired to coach the Raiders.
http://www.pghsportsforum.com/forum/showthread.php/14907-Time-To-Stop-Blaming-The-Defensive-Scheme-When-You-Don-t-Understad-What-The-Scheme-Does?s=086fd519e82ca6500af08b5ec6a5ae4f
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Told you about Cleveland, Peeb !
All the Cleveland suckitude's draining away away into Pittsburgh.
Your future is bright 8)
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All the Cleveland suckitude's draining away away into Pittsburgh.
Your future is bright 8)
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It's a TRAP GAME ! :affraid:
Sam Mellinger (Kansas City Star) :
SAN DIEGO -- Keep in mind the Chargers stink too, guys. Their quarterback turns it over too much, their roster is declining and their coach will probably soon be fired. But the Chargers’ is a more conventional brand of stink.
The NFL smells the Chargers’ kind of stink all the time, and it’s a significant stink. But by now we all know there is nothing quite as putrid as the Chiefs’ reliably rotten stink. We’re part of history here, you know: An up-close look at the kind of relentless, tenacious, opening-kickoff-to-final-whistle, never-take-a-snap-off stink against which all future generations of terrible teams will be judged.
This fireable offense of a Chiefs season made its prime-time debut on Thursday night, every misstep and fumble and failure of a 31-13 loss to the (not quite as) sorry Chargers broadcast in high-definition to what we can assume was a horrified national audience.
This season is so far noteworthy for the historic achievement of going half a season without holding a lead in regulation, and for turning Romeo Crennel from a dignified and accomplished man to one painfully without answers about how he steered a talented team into oncoming traffic.
“Nah,” he says when asked if the team is a week closer to hopelessness.
The Chiefs are not just the worst team in the NFL. They’re building a case as one of the worst in modern NFL history — especially if the overmatched head coach is allowed to keep trying to fix things with silly signs telling his guys to PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL.
The only drama left is whether the Chiefs will ever lead a game, and when owner Clark Hunt will break his silence to fire a coach who looks clueless and a general manager who obsesses over everything but quarterbacks.
Sickening and disgusting. The Chiefs are clearly not gladiators.
You surely know the incredible fact that has come to define this group of underachieving, badly coached and micromanaged losers: They haven’t held a lead in any part of their first eight games, the first team to be so thoroughly overmatched since at least 1929.
That’s nineteen-twenty-nine — the year of the (original) stock market crash. To give you an idea, in 1929, the NFL included teams in Frankford, Pa.; Staten Island, N.Y.; and Dayton, Ohio.
This is achievement of incompetence is at once both stunning and unfathomable. Even the winless Lions of 2008 managed a few leads. Actually, by this point in their flawlessly inept season, the Lions had leads in four games — including three in the fourth quarter. That team had occasional hope. This one squashes such silliness at every opportunity.
To do what the Chiefs are doing requires a perfect conspiracy of unpreparedness, ineffectiveness and whatever is the complete opposite of surgical focus — stoner focus, maybe?
You have to do things like be outscored 61-6 in the first quarter — a pretty good sign the coaches are in over their heads — while still being able to channel your substantial failures at just the wrong times.
You need a quarterback like Matt Cassel to fumble the snap at the goal line with your team threatening to take a lead against the Ravens. You need a punt returner like Javier Arenas to whiff an easy catch at precisely the wrong moment to throw momentum to the Raiders.
And you can afford to have a talented receiver like Dwayne Bowe, but only if the bulk of his production comes on garbage drives at the ends of blowouts — extra credit if he makes a fool of himself by pointing to the name on the back of his jersey — and you can count on him to fumble near the red zone when the score is close against the Chargers.
You need one quarterback who has as many or more turnovers than all but one NFL team (not including his own) and another one who is worse. You need an offense that can put together 17-play drives without scoring.
You need a team in such disarray that the star running back gets 39 touches in one game and five carries in another, the head coach openly and repeatedly says he doesn’t know what’s going on, and the owner stays silent behind the scenes trying to decide when to step in.
You need a team that’s become such a punch line in some football circles that the coach who got fired last year is jokingly called “Vince Lombardi with a dirty cap” by one personnel man while comparing the current carnage.
Kansas City sports fans have taken some misguided criticism this fall, but maybe now the football world can see what drives people to fly banners over the stadium calling for the general manager to be fired.
That’s looking more and more likely, by the way. Hunt doesn’t want to fire Scott Pioli, but he doesn’t like to be embarrassed either. The Chiefs are now nine days from what looks to be an ugly Monday night loss in Pittsburgh as Todd Haley presumably pushes his Steelers offense to score a thousand points.
Remember that a week ago, the Chargers lost to the Browns and the week before that blew a 24-point lead at home. The Raiders lost four of their first six games before beating the Chiefs, and the Bucs lost 12 of their previous 13 before beating the Chiefs.
This isn’t a football team — it’s a slump buster in pads.
The Chiefs, with a thorough, consistent and no-snaps-off incompetence that the league has never seen, can no longer be talked about in a serious manner. Not until Hunt takes serious action, anyway.
Maybe the next coach can call a play with the lead. Maybe the next general manager will worry more about the quarterback than candy wrappers.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/02...#storylink=cpy
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Sam Mellinger (Kansas City Star) :
SAN DIEGO -- Keep in mind the Chargers stink too, guys. Their quarterback turns it over too much, their roster is declining and their coach will probably soon be fired. But the Chargers’ is a more conventional brand of stink.
The NFL smells the Chargers’ kind of stink all the time, and it’s a significant stink. But by now we all know there is nothing quite as putrid as the Chiefs’ reliably rotten stink. We’re part of history here, you know: An up-close look at the kind of relentless, tenacious, opening-kickoff-to-final-whistle, never-take-a-snap-off stink against which all future generations of terrible teams will be judged.
This fireable offense of a Chiefs season made its prime-time debut on Thursday night, every misstep and fumble and failure of a 31-13 loss to the (not quite as) sorry Chargers broadcast in high-definition to what we can assume was a horrified national audience.
This season is so far noteworthy for the historic achievement of going half a season without holding a lead in regulation, and for turning Romeo Crennel from a dignified and accomplished man to one painfully without answers about how he steered a talented team into oncoming traffic.
“Nah,” he says when asked if the team is a week closer to hopelessness.
The Chiefs are not just the worst team in the NFL. They’re building a case as one of the worst in modern NFL history — especially if the overmatched head coach is allowed to keep trying to fix things with silly signs telling his guys to PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL.
The only drama left is whether the Chiefs will ever lead a game, and when owner Clark Hunt will break his silence to fire a coach who looks clueless and a general manager who obsesses over everything but quarterbacks.
Sickening and disgusting. The Chiefs are clearly not gladiators.
You surely know the incredible fact that has come to define this group of underachieving, badly coached and micromanaged losers: They haven’t held a lead in any part of their first eight games, the first team to be so thoroughly overmatched since at least 1929.
That’s nineteen-twenty-nine — the year of the (original) stock market crash. To give you an idea, in 1929, the NFL included teams in Frankford, Pa.; Staten Island, N.Y.; and Dayton, Ohio.
This is achievement of incompetence is at once both stunning and unfathomable. Even the winless Lions of 2008 managed a few leads. Actually, by this point in their flawlessly inept season, the Lions had leads in four games — including three in the fourth quarter. That team had occasional hope. This one squashes such silliness at every opportunity.
To do what the Chiefs are doing requires a perfect conspiracy of unpreparedness, ineffectiveness and whatever is the complete opposite of surgical focus — stoner focus, maybe?
You have to do things like be outscored 61-6 in the first quarter — a pretty good sign the coaches are in over their heads — while still being able to channel your substantial failures at just the wrong times.
You need a quarterback like Matt Cassel to fumble the snap at the goal line with your team threatening to take a lead against the Ravens. You need a punt returner like Javier Arenas to whiff an easy catch at precisely the wrong moment to throw momentum to the Raiders.
And you can afford to have a talented receiver like Dwayne Bowe, but only if the bulk of his production comes on garbage drives at the ends of blowouts — extra credit if he makes a fool of himself by pointing to the name on the back of his jersey — and you can count on him to fumble near the red zone when the score is close against the Chargers.
You need one quarterback who has as many or more turnovers than all but one NFL team (not including his own) and another one who is worse. You need an offense that can put together 17-play drives without scoring.
You need a team in such disarray that the star running back gets 39 touches in one game and five carries in another, the head coach openly and repeatedly says he doesn’t know what’s going on, and the owner stays silent behind the scenes trying to decide when to step in.
You need a team that’s become such a punch line in some football circles that the coach who got fired last year is jokingly called “Vince Lombardi with a dirty cap” by one personnel man while comparing the current carnage.
Kansas City sports fans have taken some misguided criticism this fall, but maybe now the football world can see what drives people to fly banners over the stadium calling for the general manager to be fired.
That’s looking more and more likely, by the way. Hunt doesn’t want to fire Scott Pioli, but he doesn’t like to be embarrassed either. The Chiefs are now nine days from what looks to be an ugly Monday night loss in Pittsburgh as Todd Haley presumably pushes his Steelers offense to score a thousand points.
Remember that a week ago, the Chargers lost to the Browns and the week before that blew a 24-point lead at home. The Raiders lost four of their first six games before beating the Chiefs, and the Bucs lost 12 of their previous 13 before beating the Chiefs.
This isn’t a football team — it’s a slump buster in pads.
The Chiefs, with a thorough, consistent and no-snaps-off incompetence that the league has never seen, can no longer be talked about in a serious manner. Not until Hunt takes serious action, anyway.
Maybe the next coach can call a play with the lead. Maybe the next general manager will worry more about the quarterback than candy wrappers.
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/02...#storylink=cpy
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Called THAT one ! :lol:
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