How Does Full Virginia Flake Compare to Union Square?

[monbla256]

Union Square is cased with what? Distilled water? Fairy dust?

who said anything about US being cased? I've never heard that before, and I surely wouldn't get that from smoking it.

Here we go again ! ALL tobacco's are cased, just not all tobacco's are Topped or flavored! GLP has discussed this before, both here and on his site. :twisted:

I thought GL Pease's Union Square had no casings or toppings.  Here is the description from his website "Union Square is a blended sliced cake of high-grade flue cured leaf, from beautiful, sweet brights to deep, earthy reds, without the added sugars, sauces, flavourings and top-dressings common to many other VA flakes."

To me, that states there has been absolutly nothing added to the tobacco, no casings or toppings.

I'm sure Greg is referring to the addition of a TOPPING to this blend/mixture as ALL tobaccos are CASED to allow them to light and smoke properly in the pipe. If you take a Va tobacco leaf straight from the curing barn and shred it up to be able to load and light in a pipe, it WILL NOT burn properly and you will not get the sweet flavor it is known for in the smoke. It is the CASING done by the bulk suppliers do to the 'bacs blenders use that allows them to be made into the blends/mixtures we love.

 

[Anonymous]

Everyone has an OPINION, and they should be expressed as such. Not having experienced first hand, how they process their blends I COULD NOT make that statement.  :twisted: :twisted:  

1) True
2) Irrelevant to the issue.

You COULD NOT recognise what's in front of your face (or, in this case, in your mouth & nose) because you've subverted your thought process by playing "How do we know that we know what we know ?" so habitually it's become a default setting.

Every matter of direct perception thus becomes an exercise in bean counting using double-entry bookkeeping procedures.

Others among us have not incapacitated themselves that way. :lol: 

I wish I had a little US to compare with it.

Noted.    

:face:

 

[Northern Neil]

Mon,
I am sure there are tobaccos on the market that have received no casings! I agree that tobacco straight out of the curing barns probably does not taste the greatest. That being said, are tobaccos not put through a fermentation stage after the color curing / drying. My understanding is this is where the ammonia's are sweated out and the good flavor of the tobacco will shine through.
A good example would be Cuban Cigars. To my understanding they have no casings or toppings added. The tobacco is fermented and then aged for years before it becomes a cigar. I have to assume that there is at leaste one pipe tobacco blend out there that does not use any casings or toppings.

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Uh...erm...

...I...like...Union Square? :cheers:

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There. I contributed.

8)

 

[Anonymous]

You'd think I posted "What's right and wrong with Hillary Clinton?" or something.

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[monbla256]

Mon,
I am sure there are tobaccos on the market that have received no casings! I agree that tobacco straight out of the curing barns probably does not taste the greatest. That being said, are tobaccos not put through a fermentation stage after the color curing / drying. My understanding is this is where the ammonia's are sweated out and the good flavor of the tobacco will shine through.
A good example would be Cuban Cigars. To my understanding they have no casings or toppings added. The tobacco is fermented and then aged for years before it becomes a cigar. I have to assume that there is at leaste one pipe tobacco blend out there that does not use any casings or toppings.

I find it interesting how often this 'does/does not" casing subject comes up. Almost like the "pure food" issue folks are always going back/forth on. The ONLY tobacco I have ever encountered WITHOUT some kind of additive has been that which is taken from the farm to the auction barn and sold before it goes to the folks who process it and make the final product we tobacco consuming customers buy. But WHY does it matter if we find a blend/mixture that we like? Just remember the mantra of the 50s/60s : "Better living through chemistry" - DOW Chemicals :twisted: :twisted: 

 

[Slartibartfast]

Better living through Chemistry - You sure that wasn't Owsley Stanley?    :lol!: 

I agree completely and the whole thing has a stink of some kind of eugenic "purity" subtext to it IMO.  Some like bold flavours in their smoke, some like subtleties and nuances, and yes, some like both.

Geez yersel' some peace an' smoke yer pipe.   :twisted:

 

[Crookshanks]

Everyone has an OPINION, and they should be expressed as such. Not having experienced first hand, how they process their blends I COULD NOT make that statement.  :twisted: :twisted:  

1) True
2) Irrelevant to the issue.

You COULD NOT recognise what's in front of your face (or, in this case, in your mouth & nose) because you've subverted your thought process by playing "How do we know that we know what we know ?" so habitually it's become a default setting.

Every matter of direct perception thus becomes an exercise in bean counting using double-entry bookkeeping procedures.

Others among us have not incapacitated themselves that way. :lol: 

I wish I had a little US to compare with it.

Noted.    

:face:

Wow. I hope I make it to Yaksylvania some day. I want to buy you a beer and watch you talk about things.

 

[monbla256]

Better living through Chemistry - You sure that wasn't Owsley Stanley?    :lol!: 

I agree completely and the whole thing has a stink of some kind of eugenic "purity" subtext to it IMO.  Some like bold flavours in their smoke, some like subtleties and nuances, and yes, some like both.

Geez yersel' some peace an' smoke yer pipe.   :twisted:

Oooooooh ! Owsley! He did some RIGHTEOUS Chemistry !! :twisted: :twisted: 

 

[Aristokles]

Everyone has an OPINION, and they should be expressed as such. Not having experienced first hand, how they process their blends I COULD NOT make that statement.  :twisted: :twisted:  

1) True
2) Irrelevant to the issue.

You COULD NOT recognise what's in front of your face (or, in this case, in your mouth & nose) because you've subverted your thought process by playing "How do we know that we know what we know ?" so habitually it's become a default setting.

Every matter of direct perception thus becomes an exercise in bean counting using double-entry bookkeeping procedures.

Others among us have not incapacitated themselves that way. :lol: 

I wish I had a little US to compare with it.

Noted.    

:face:

Wow. I hope I make it to Yaksylvania some day. I want to buy you a beer and watch you talk about things.

Let me know when you go and I'll meet up with you there.

 

[Crookshanks]

That's a deal, M'Friend.

 

[Anonymous]

Aris & Crook --

PMs sent.

:face: 

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Aris & Crook --

PMs sent.  

:face: 

:cheers:

Wish I lived closer!

 

[Anonymous]

You three are welcome here, any time. If you don't know that by now, you do now.

Problem is, a lot of neat ideas don't translate into practice all that well. You here in a double-wide with seven cats and your allergies would not be a viable proposition unless it were summertime & we could hang out & eat on the porch.  

Not to mention that I'd likely have to keep asking you to repeat whatever you just said, louder & enunciate better. Which would get pretty old.

We be cool, Bro 8) 

:face:

 

[Kyle Weiss]

Ha!

I'll just have to invest in one of those funky pop-up screened enclosures that go out on the lawn, I'll make sure to get a really good one (with cool solar lights n stuff). Just provide chairs--keep the skeeters out, keep the briars in rotation, the adult beverages goin', and we can yell stories/ideas at each other in a brotherly fashion. Plus, tune in a Pirates game on the AM radio (loudly--don't worry I'll yell "BUCS UP 5-2 NOW...FIVE TO TWO... FIIIIIIIIIIIVE-TO-TWOOOOOO :lol: ). I don't gotta stay inside with kitties, I live for cheap motels and vehicle-sleeping. :lol: Provided the neighbors wouldn't freak out...and Mrs. Yak is amiable to making cost-effective snacks. Heh.

Promise: If I'm ever in that area, expect company. With good Scotch. I'd be awesome.

We'll call it "Yakstock." Bunch of us will just sleep on the lawn all weekend. :cheers: Veet knows how to play guitar, I think.