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  1. Rusty

    You folks realize dunhill no longer is in tobacc

    A Dunhill Tobacco shop in London? That's BAT UK. BAT owns the brand 'Dunhill Tobacco of London'. So if it says Dunhill Tobacco you're staring into the retail maw of the beast... Has nothing to do with Alfred Dunhill Ltd. http://upscalelivingmag.com/dunhill-cigar-1a-st-jamess-street/ Many...
  2. Rusty

    You folks realize dunhill no longer is in tobacc

    Pas vrai, mon ami. BAT (British American Tobacco) owns the Dunhill pipe tobacco TM and line. They just have STG make it under contract for them. So it is BAT responding to the market by restoring Elix Mix, Durbar, & Aperitif to market. In 2007 BAT sold most of their other pipe tobacco trademarks...
  3. Rusty

    Jim's Dan's St. Bernard Flake Review.

    Sometimes it might be available under another brand name... :D Dan Pipe Catalog Description of St. Bernard Flake > Former's Description of Straight Grain Flake > From http://formerpipes.com/former.html Too similar to be mere coincidence, especially since DTM is the manufacturer of...
  4. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Ok so I'm clearly going to learn something so please help me understand from the pov of our pipe tobaccos. White Burley - light coloured, a bit like oatmeal; is it air, sun, or fire cured? An example would be C&D's White Burley in their blenders. Which ever curing method is correct who or which...
  5. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Are you & Kyle a tag team? I agree that it is a plant strain but to become a Burley it must also be air cured. If you have info please share it. I'll read it with interest, esp if you work in the tobacco industry. Go ahead.
  6. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Actually there is an important point about the Perique. There are two types of Perique from LA Poche. One is St. James Perique which is pure Perique grown in the St. James parish. The other is Acadian Perique which is a blend of green river Burley selected for its quality and processed like...
  7. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Ok lets start at the beginning. 1) Yes there are plant varietals identified as seed types that are used in the various belts to produce tobaccos that are intended for those curing techniques. The seed intended to produce Va's are different than the seeds for Burley. Are we ok still? I'm not...
  8. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    There are many seed types. These are plant varietals. It's not a tobacco type for us until has it been cured. The curing determines the familiar name. Accept or not it's up to you. I think if you read you'll see it eventually. Are there seeds that yield a bright green plant that is air cured to...
  9. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    What is your net worth? It's not cure = varietal. Because otherwise white burley would be identical to dark burley. Both are air cured. The varietal are plants seeds and there a ton of them. They have all sorts of nice and poor characteristics. And there have been new ones for years and years...
  10. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Kyle has all these wrong ideas. I'm slowly killing off all the myths. But he does resist. He likes to get it wrong and complicate it the first couple of times. I'd refer him to God if I was speaking terms. I wish he would read the books that he owns.
  11. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Go check USDA site if you want. They define all the tobacco types and they connect it to curing technique. The site you referenced is a bit soft. Virginia is a familiar name for flue cured, bright, etc. There is no room for 'typically' flue cured. Virginia is a familiar name for flue cured...
  12. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    Burley is actually a derivative of the plant we now call Virginia (when it's flue cured). Varietals are intended for specific curing techniques. So White Burley looks different than dark Burley. http://www.tobaccoleaf.org/conteudos/default.asp?id=18 Quote: "Growers have developed a wide range...
  13. Rusty

    Red, Bright, Maryland, Kentucky, etc: What does it all mean?

    You guys are pleasantly off the deep end tonight. Tobacco is actually, formally, known by it's curing technique. OK? But some also have familiar names example: Virginia is flue cured and flue cured is Virginia. Period. If one grows a strain of tobacco that is intended to be flue cured and air...
  14. Rusty

    I just tried Samuel Gawith's Kendal Plug

    It all starts with the horses that lug the wagons across the Lake District mtns. They would rarely stop until they reached the end of the journey in Kendal. Where the horses would disgorge ... yes! It's the stuff that remains from the south end of a north bound carriage horse. I think it's...
  15. Rusty

    Nex to tobacco variety's

    An old French Canadienne (btw they refer to themselves Quebecois but you abandoned them) pipe smoker. :shock:
  16. Rusty

    For those interested in "Imperial" tobaccos, ie Capstan, etc

    Good luck with that. Unlikely. There is some history here. Back in the mid 90's Gallaher was a subsidiary of the very famous American Tob Company. Many of the manufactured Gallaher branded tobaccos were available on shelves eg Condor, Rich Dark Honeydew, Sobranie, Cotton's, Sullivan Powell, etc...
  17. Rusty

    For those interested in "Imperial" tobaccos, ie Capstan, etc

    This is a fascinating thread. And I think there probably is a market in the US for more traditional flakes and plugs esp the Irish plugs. Having another market (esp one as large as the US) for them is very likely to keep the products manufactured too. Traditionally the marketplace for hard...
  18. Rusty

    Nex to tobacco variety's

    Maybe. OTOH it is the way the rest of world is going. This is the WHO FCTC and their program playing out. The US seems to be a little different and that's both interesting and gratifying. The US has not ratified the FCTC. You are one of very few that have not. So those of us that enjoy tobacco...
  19. Rusty

    Nex to tobacco variety's

    I'm chuckling reading your post because Quebec has the lowest tobacco taxes in the nation. Ontario is the next lowest. An Olympic swimming pool of worms. But the amazing thing is how much there is. So we can argue. And a lot of it is quite good. It's not like there are two or three great brands...
  20. Rusty

    Nex to tobacco variety's

    Scott is making suggestions to try for any and all. It's all about trying stuff. But we were talking about consensus and then terminology. I was specifically answering your question and also gently teasing you about your preferences along with Yak. Some of those suppliers will not send Canucks...
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